<div>Hi,</div>
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<div>I am going to modify the SACs from the VITTA resources . </div>
<div>Can i ask do these SACs satisfy the outcomes properly from the study design?</div>
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<div>I am being audited so i need to be exact.<br><br> </div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 2/8/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">Kelly Beattie</b> <<a href="mailto:beattie.kelly.l@edumail.vic.gov.au">beattie.kelly.l@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">I think that people sometimes forget that you can actually write your own<br>SAC. By using the assessment advice and the study design you have all of the<br>
resources necessary to develop your own Assessment materials.<br><br>By all means use the SACs that are floating around for practice, but it is<br>100% worth the effort to develop your own SACs. I can say this because I've<br>
done it.<br><br>Good luck to those who are willing to give it a go!<br><br>Kelly Beattie<br>Leading Schools Fund Coordinator<br>Moondah Centre<br>Drouin Secondary College<br>South Road, Drouin 3818<br>Ph: (03) 5625 1002<br>
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Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] SAC1<br>To: "'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'"<br> <<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a>><br>Message-ID:<br>
<001301c869f4$bc2aaff0$34800fd0$@adrian.a@<a href="http://edumail.vic.gov.au">edumail.vic.gov.au</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>...<br><br><br><br><br><br>Having thought about this a little bit more (after pressing 'send').<br>
<br><br><br>Personally, I don't think you should use the solutions at all.<br><br><br><br>We all know the course material - I feel that the best way for anyone using<br>someone else SAC to proceed is to write their own solutions that are<br>
relevant to the skills levels and material covered in their own classes.<br>Also, by doing so, it is easier to come to grips with the pitfalls and<br>complications within the SAC.<br><br><br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Adrian<br><br>
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On Behalf Of andrew barry<br>Sent: Friday, 8 February 2008 12:34 PM<br>To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] SAC1<br><br><br><br>The u302 module solution is far more detailed than the description on the<br>
sac. The soln has an imported XML file instead of a text file and a detailed<br>GUI. Is the solution just a excellent example for top marks as it seems<br>overkill?<br><br>On 2/8/08, Adrian Janson <<a href="mailto:janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au">janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>Hi Andrew,<br><br><br><br>The link to the materials that you are looking for are here:<br><br><a href="http://www.vitta.org.au/resources/list.php?folder_id=166">http://www.vitta.org.au/resources/list.php?folder_id=166</a><br>
<<a href="http://www.vitta.org.au/resources/list.php?folder_id=166&order=name%20ASC">http://www.vitta.org.au/resources/list.php?folder_id=166&order=name%20ASC</a>><br>&order=name%20ASC<br><br><br><br>They are stored on the VITTA web-site in the resources section. If you<br>
cannot access this area, then you are not a VITTA member - so then I would<br>encourage you to sign up as soon as possible! The benefits of being a<br>member are numerous - the most obvious one being that you will have access<br>
to a large number of resources written by VITTA members stored in the<br>resource section.<br><br><br><br>All the best!<br><br><br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Adrian<br><br><br><br>Adrian Janson,<br><br>VITTA President<br><br>Director of ICT,<br>
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<br>Message: 2<br>Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:34:59 +1100<br>From: "andrew barry" <<a href="mailto:jagguy999@gmail.com">jagguy999@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] SAC1<br>To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List"<br>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<br><br>Hi,<br><br>I dont have a problem with the solution as i understand it. Some of my guys<br>have just started VB.net and I dont believe the can reproduce that level of<br>
response in 10-13 weeks. They could do the SAC as it is written by the time<br>they do the sac but not the solution to that level of detail.<br><br>Also I cant view the .VSD file as i cant download MS visio viewer as the<br>
download is corrupt 2003,2007 ver.<br>Has anyone got the DFD diagram for this?<br><br><br>Are there any other SACs around as i like to have a choice or do i just<br>modify what i have?<br><br><br><br><br>On 2/8/08, Adrian Janson <<a href="mailto:janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au">janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>> Andrew,<br>><br>><br>><br>> This really highlights a difficulty for me in providing solutions to SACs.<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> I do like to post my SACs to the edulists and each year I receive requests<br>
> for solutions. Ultimately, 'solutions' are going to be based on what<br>level<br>> of expectation you place on the students in your class. The important<br>thing<br>> is that you grade each SAC in a uniform way and you (and your class) have<br>
a<br>> clear understanding of what is expected.<br>><br>><br>><br>> The SAC solution which you are referring to is essentially an amalgam of a<br>> number of high level responses received from students in my class. If you<br>
> gave this SAC to your class would you be expecting them to produce an<br>XML<br>> file solution in order to achieve full marks? Absolutely not. You should<br>> use whatever software you have selected and require students to reproduce<br>
> the skills which you are teaching them.<br>><br>><br>><br>> Cheers,<br>><br>> Adrian<br>><br>><br>><br>> *Adrian Janson, *<br>><br>> *VITTA President*<br>><br>> *Director of ICT, *<br>
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><br>> *From:* <a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<br>> <a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] *On Behalf Of *andrew barry<br>
> *Sent:* Friday, 8 February 2008 12:34 PM<br>> *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] SAC1<br>><br>><br>><br>> The u302 module solution is far more detailed than the description on the<br>
> sac. The soln has an imported XML file instead of a text file and a<br>detailed<br>> GUI. Is the solution just a excellent example for top marks as it seems<br>> overkill?<br>><br>> On 2/8/08, *Adrian Janson* <<a href="mailto:janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au">janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>> Hi Andrew,<br>><br>><br>><br>> The link to the materials that you are looking for are here:<br>><br>> <a href="http://www.vitta.org.au/resources/list.php?folder_id=166&order=name%20ASC">http://www.vitta.org.au/resources/list.php?folder_id=166&order=name%20ASC</a><br>
><br>><br>><br>> They are stored on the VITTA web-site in the resources section. If you<br>> cannot access this area, then you are not a VITTA member so then I would<br>> encourage you to sign up as soon as possible! The benefits of being a<br>
> member are numerous the most obvious one being that you will have access<br>> to a large number of resources written by VITTA members stored in the<br>> resource section.<br>><br>><br>><br>> All the best!<br>
><br>><br>><br>> Cheers,<br>><br>> Adrian<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> Hi,<br>><br>><br>><br>> I am still after SAC1 and 2 for software development. I emailed VITTA but<br>
> I wonder what people here are using. I have last years SAC1 for network<br>> design but no answer sheet.<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> Any help is appreciated.<br>><br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>
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