<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Hi Andrew </div><div><br></div><div>From an industry point of view many graphic "artists " use macs. They are just easier and more reliable for NON computer geeks who do not love 'peering under the bonnet and interfering with the machine'</div><div><br></div><div>Obviously a Mac lab in a windows server environment requires knowledgable techs otherwise it is difficult.</div><div>At my daughter's school they use mac minis in the graphics/multimedia lab. SSDs because files are not permanently stored locally.</div><div><br></div><div>Specialist IT lab needs to run Java or VB or some such and it is good for students to see that there is no silly bias to one platform or another. </div><div>And what does one run in teh music lab? Dual boot? Stuff that uses MIDI?</div><div>On what platform does one do the mixing? Do you move to different labs to do differ things?</div><div><br></div><div>Etc... At the school at which I work we are looking at three specialist labs Media, Vis Com, IT and a small group of music machines and a couple of machines for CAD/CAM/design in teh tech area.</div><div>And the SYOM model (like BYOD except it is spend your own money)</div><div><br></div><div>Good luck</div><div><br></div><div>Andrew</div><div><br><div><br></div><div>Andrew Shortell</div><div>Educator</div><div>CRC Melton</div><div><br></div><div><a href="mailto:shortell@get2me.net">shortell@get2me.net</a> (lists)</div><div><a href="mailto:andrew@get2me.net">andrew@get2me.net</a> (personal)</div><div>@acsbear (twitter)</div><div>VITTA CoM member</div><div>Skype: acshortell</div><div><br></div><div>Sent from my iPad</div></div><div><br>On 18/06/2013, at 3:20 PM, Roland Gesthuizen <<a href="mailto:rgesthuizen@gmail.com">rgesthuizen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><base href="x-msg://33/">Each to his own I guess. We are a 1:1 netbook school too, pulled apart the old labs sold the gear off to interested staff and students. Starting our 2014 year 7 intake with 1:1 iPads (year 8 following) .. Our talented tech did a great job setting up a new iMac lab for the arts area. Very exciting times to be teaching in.<div><div apple-content-edited="true">
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<br><div><div>On 18/06/2013, at 3:13 PM, WEIR Andrew <<a href="mailto:andrew.weir@thomascarr.vic.edu.au">andrew.weir@thomascarr.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-AU" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">As some of you may be aware we are a 1:1 Ipad School with computer labs as well.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I am interested to hear from schools on the 1:1 journey in relation to what they are doing with the ex-lease or end of line computer labs.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">We will always have some labs for subjects but the number is reducing as devices improve.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">At this point in time we are able to keep our current computers for at least another year as they were purchased rather than leased but thinking strategically, “What’s Next?”<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I am also looking at what other schools are doing in relation to Media, Digital Arts and Video editing based subjects, we have a series of IMAC labs that will eventually need to be replaced and am interested if Macs truly are “industry standard” or is it more the ability to use the software such as Premier, Photoshop, AVID that is more significant?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I have sourced info myself from my non-teaching networks but feel that in the MAC / PC ,“Industry Standard” argument I may be biased in my opinion.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">So I am interested in the opinions of others so that I can take the information back to the rest of our technology team.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; 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