I'd agree with you Paul, just that I question the work flow, scaring everybody with DFD diagrams and other eye popping words.<div><br></div><div>When I challenged, wrestled, distilled and distilled and trimmed down to what was really wanted, they really wanted to keep the paper system (yes, but it works) and a single report back to staff what PD they had all done (ie a flat file database managed by the PD coordinator) .. easy peasy. </div>
<div><br></div><div>If I was any meaner, then it would have left to just a single number to manage, probably 42.<div><br></div><div>Regards Roland<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 12 August 2010 16:25, Dr Paul Chandler <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paul.chandler@une.edu.au">paul.chandler@une.edu.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">I'm a big fan of google docs and forms (we've just done a 7-school survey<br>
including over 400 students using Forms) ... but I'm not completely<br>
convinced that this technology is ideally suited to Andrew's application.<br>
Something with "workflow" built in seems more the go.<br>
<br>
... and if Roland disagrees, then we'll just have to agree to disagree!!<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
> GoogleDocs, just create a form and go from there. Free to use, easy to set<br>
> up a flat database and easy for somebody else to create reports or fix.<br>
> Every couple of months, Google keeps sticking more bells and whistles on<br>
> this beast.<br>
><br>
> Once a small part of my life disappeared in a hole filled with access and<br>
> web database, i'll never see that time return and am older and<br>
> wiser. Whenever I nail down PD coordinators with what they REALLY need a<br>
> PD<br>
> database for, there is usually a core reason, wrapped in bundle of fluffy<br>
> pink fabric. Just because it can be done online doesn't make it better.<br>
><br>
> My advice? Go simple and flat. Diskworld had it right all along.<br>
><br>
> Regards Roland<br>
><br>
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>> Our leadership team is wondering if there are any good online PD<br>
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