<html><head><base href="x-msg://1/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Thanks for that Kevork. :)<div>We actually got some valuable feedback on what staff feel they need in an ongoing sense to make it work here.</div><div>My notes make a valuable case to make to the school admin and leadership team for ongoing time - it was probably quite good that the Prin team was away to be honest as people had no hesitations in speaking freely.</div><div>I think that you can only show so much Web2.0 stuff and justifying etc and at some point you need to address the human element and administrative issues in implementing the UN. Getting that right is crucial. We saw through our Studywiz implementation what worked and what didn't. Why it worked in some schools and not as well in others.</div><div>We are very lucky to have had that experience and to have had the opportunity to learn from it.</div><div>I also focussed very much on emphasising the positives but not ignoring the issues and problems.</div><div>So I would summarise the day as "successful" as well, although I don't think we should ever forget the original purpose of the day and that we have lost that time for good.</div><div>Hope things are going well over there for you! :D</div><div>Cheers mate</div><div>Cameron<br><div><br><div><div>On 10/08/2010, at 8:30 AM, Kevork Krozian wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-AU" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Hi Cameron,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">We couldn’t get on all day. We knew this might or most likely be the case.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">We used the backup plan of activities such as breaking into groups to look at Web 2.0, watching the video on privacy ( posted on vet-mm list ), a booklet summarizing the graduated Ultranet skills and questionnaires etc.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Amazingly most felt it was a good day despite not getting on once.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Sorry this advice came a day late ............<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Take Care<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Kevork<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 0cm; "><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:offtopic-bounces@edulists.com.au" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">offtopic-bounces@edulists.com.au</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:offtopic-bounces@edulists.com.au]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Cameron Bell<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, 9 August 2010 12:47 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Information Technology Teachers' Offtopic Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Offtopic] Ultranet Training Day<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; ">Thanks Pen,<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; ">We are having a "discussion" session on how we are going to make it work.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; ">What we learnt from the implementation of Studywiz etc etc<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; ">Thanks heaps<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; ">C<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; ">On 09/08/2010, at 11:54 AM, Pennie White wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 12pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">I can send you my Plan B-O links if you like!<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: center; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><hr size="3" width="95%" align="center"></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Cameron Bell <<a href="x-msg://10/bell.cameron.p@edumail.vic.gov.au" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">bell.cameron.p@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>><br><b>Reply-To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Information Technology Teachers' Offtopic Mailing List <<a href="x-msg://10/offtopic@edulists.com.au" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">offtopic@edulists.com.au</a>><br><b>Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Mon, 9 Aug 2010 11:42:25 +1000<br><b>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Information Technology Teachers' Offtopic Mailing List <<a href="x-msg://10/offtopic@edulists.com.au" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">offtopic@edulists.com.au</a>><br><b>Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>[Offtopic] Ultranet Training Day<br><br>Case Study in disasters, emergency back up plans and how to turn your initiative into a laughing stock.<br>A couple of lead users trying to keep positive and trying to maintain enthusiasm despite no-one being able to logon or see the thing.<br>This is not a good look to those of use trying to get staff enthused and "on-board".<br>Can anyone get on????<br>Sigh<br>Cameron<br>Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. 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