Good question .. I bet the climate change deniers will make whatever mileage they can from the paperclip variation in the moons orbit that is detected and the need for further research. The reality is that any variation in the orbit started long before the crash as the satellite and moon began their joint orbital dance of death.<br>
<br>There is a moon-quake seismograph on the moon left after the Apollo missions. They did use this to detect the empty Apollo lander craft that crashed onto the moon after the impacted the surface. I am curious if it is still working (albeit it may no longer be working) <br>
<br>I will run both thoughts past a good friend of mine, Ross who has a sound physics background and is president of the ASV cosmological society.<br><br>Regards Roland<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/6/15 Alan Oh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:OH.A@wcc.vic.edu.au">OH.A@wcc.vic.edu.au</a>></span><br>
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<p><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Is the moon now off course? Tides going to
change, or will the moon tear itself from it’s orbit like in Space 1999 ?
Showing my age a little here. </span></font></p>
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<p><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;" lang="EN-US">
<a href="mailto:offtopic-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">offtopic-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:offtopic-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">offtopic-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Roland Gesthuizen<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, 12 June 2009 6:03 PM<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Offtopic] Re: Japanese
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The following link has
some photographs of the lunar collision taken by some Astronomers at the Anglo
Australia Telescope .. working back late, as they do best :-)<br>
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Regards Roland (from a rather overcast Melbourne
and wearing a warm footy scarf)<br>
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From: <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Rob Hollow</span></b>
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Date: 2009/6/12<br>
Subject: Re: Japanese Spacecraft lunar impact<br>
To: Roland Gesthuizen <<a href="mailto:rgesthuizen@gmail.com" target="_blank">rgesthuizen@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Hi Roland, astronomers on the AAT imaged it:</span></font></p>
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<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">2009/6/10 Roland Gesthuizen <<a href="mailto:rgesthuizen@gmail.com" target="_blank">rgesthuizen@gmail.com</a>></span></font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">If you are reading this
on Thursday morning, the collision has already happened and you can probably
view the pictures (if any).<br>
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<a href="http://spaceweather.com/" target="_blank">http://spaceweather.com/</a><br>
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At least my WA friends will not have to stay up as late as I must in Melbourne to glimpse of
the Japanese Spacecraft that is predicted to impact on the lunar surface. I
will be poking my head outside with a telescope and battle the clouds and cold
to spot the lunar impact on the top LHS (turning their diagram upside down for
the southern hemisphere) From my copy of the open source software Stellarium,
the Moon will be to the NE and about 80 degrees high (just look up .. no need
to use the sofware like I did!) <br>
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This makes the impact time for Melbourne:
Thursday, June 11, 2009 at 4:30:00 AM or Perth
Thursday, June 11, 2009 at 2:30:00 AM<br>
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As my wife points out, the last time she looked at space junk in WA, it was
Skylab with no space repellent to keep the debris away. Dont expect any debris
clouds spiraling back or blinding flash... just a vague chance of spotting
something through binoculars or largish telescope. We lost ours with the
Gippsland bush fires that ran through our school camp back in February so I am
relying on one that a friend loaned me. Fingers crossed .. </span></font></p>
<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Kaguya is a big spaceship. It masses 2,900 kg and will hit the Moon at
an oblique angle traveling approximately 6,000 km/hr. Whether it tumbles and
bounces along the lunar surface or runs headlong into some towering crater
wall, no one can say. Clues to the end of Kaguya will come on June 10th in the
form of an explosive flash (or lack thereof) and high-res images of the crash
site taken by future lunar orbiters.</span></font></p>
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If nothing happens, just wave your fist at the moon and get back to writing
reports.<br>
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Regards Roland</span></font></p>
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Date: 2009/6/10<br>
Subject: Japanese Spacecraft Set to Hit the Moon<br>
To: "SpaceWeather.com" <<a href="mailto:swlist@spaceweather.com" target="_blank">swlist@spaceweather.com</a>><br>
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Space Weather News for June 10, 2009<br>
<a href="http://spaceweather.com" target="_blank">http://spaceweather.com</a><br>
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IMPACT ALERT: Japan's
Kaguya will crash into the Moon on Wednesday, June 10th, around 1830 UT. The
timing favors observers in Asia and Australia, who might be able to see
a flash of light or a plume of debris rising from the Moon's southeastern limb.
The spacecraft masses 2,600 kg and it will slam into the lunar surface at
6,000 km/hr. No one knows, however, how bright the flash might be or
whether it will be visible even through large telescopes. Images of the
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Roland Gesthuizen - ICT Coordinator - Westall Secondary
College<br>
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