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color=#0000ff size=2>Jim and Others,<BR>I have just returned from ubuntu back to
windows. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=546271203-14072008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I'll add that i will only be doing it for about 12 weeks
whilst i edit and create the college year book. Adobe indesign does not seem to
like running under WINE.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=546271203-14072008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Firstly i used the ubuntu 8.04 64 bit edition as i have a
dual core machine. Now that was my first correct decision, stability was great,
speed was amazing.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=546271203-14072008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>One thing that was missing was a great tool called
automatix Ended development at 7.10. Very useful tool to install that would
download and get other major application like open office and install MP3
support and DVD codec's.<BR></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=546271203-14072008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>However saying that synaptic and apt-get are excellent
tools. One of my pieces of advice is to set the Repository for updates to one of
the Australian servers. I was lucky in the fact the Internode mirror the ubuntu,
debian and red hat repositories and as a customer i get those downloads
unmetered.(saves a few gigs over a month)<BR></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=546271203-14072008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Except for no 64 bit version of flash being available
(there is a way to use the 32bit version) it has been
brilliant.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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class=546271203-14072008>Regards</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> offtopic-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:offtopic-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jim
Maunder<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 14 July 2008 12:07 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Information
Technology Teachers' Offtopic Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Offtopic] Sharing
linux and Windows files on a dual boot machine<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Hello Ros and others - <BR><BR>Long story to make up for the possum
stirring.<BR><BR>One of my recent little home jobs has been to recover files
from my daughter's laptop - it dual booted Windows and Fedora linux, but the
Fedora side became mangled and would not load. It contained amongst other things
her BSc(Hons) thesis written with LaTeX, and although she had a copy on the Mt
Stromlo servers, she wanted the one on the lappy so she could fix the
punctuation and grammar. She wanted me to:<BR>1) recover the files on the linux
side<BR>2) remove the Fedora installation and install Ubuntu<BR><BR>Task 1
proved to be the trickier - the obvious approach was to run Ubuntu live from a
CD, then copy files to an external USB HDD, but this does not work straight off
- I got file access denied messages. A bit of Googling found why - it seems the
gid numbers in Ubuntu and Fedora are different for ordinary users. I was not
game to try 'chown' as a workaround in case it mucked things up. Now I knew that
Ubuntu/Kubuntu reads and writes to NTFS partions quite happily, so I wondered if
it would work the other way - could Windows read Ext3 partions. More Googling
quickly found two solutions, and the one that worked best is Ext2IFS for Windows
<BR><BR><A href="http://www.fs-driver.org/"
eudora="autourl">http://www.fs-driver.org/</A> <BR><BR>After installation this
searches your system and allows the user to assign drive letters to Ext2 and
Ext3 partitions. I tried it on the sacrificial lappy here at work and it worked
like a charm.<BR><BR>At home I installed this driver on my daughter's lappy, got
drive letters etc., then found and copied the files off to a caddy. There were
some problems with file and folder names that contained illegal characters (as
far as Windows was concerned), but that was fixed with Ubuntu from a CD and
peace and calm returned to the Maunder household.<BR><BR>Task 2 was quite
interesting for me, because it made me come to grips with Ubuntu, when
previously I would give up if something did not work immediately, and I was only
considering getting it to work in our work environment. Also, I had a look at
what is needed to edit with LaTeX. See <A
href="http://www.latex-project.org/intro.html"
eudora="autourl">http://www.latex-project.org/intro.html</A> I knew that this
has been around for many years in the unix and DEC VAX world, and it seems that
the Linux people prefer 'Kile' as the IDE (integrated development
environment). <A href="http://kile.sourceforge.net/"
eudora="autourl">http://kile.sourceforge.net/</A> Some more Googling for a
Windows LaTeX IDE found 'WinShell' <A href="http://www.winshell.de/"
eudora="autourl">http://www.winshell.de/</A> which has a similar look and feel
to 'Kile'. So, back to Ubuntu. <BR><BR>Again playing with the aforementioned
sacrificial laptop (so I could get the installation right before doing the
daughter's machine), Ubuntu went on easily and then I had to find out how to
install software, which means getting the Synaptic to work, which means getting
the network to work etc. I found that network proxies are set in about 3 places,
(system, browser and Synaptic) and that the NDS gateway (I think that's what it
is) is not always picked up automatically. I found out what you have to do to
play MP3 files.<BR><BR>The end result is that I would happily use Ubuntu on a
home machine, as it does everything I need to do and most of the things I'd like
to do (mostly music stuff). Maybe I'll try to get 'Half-Life' running under
'Wine', but that's what the Windows partition is for.<BR><BR>rgds<BR>Jim (who
hopes you don't mind a bit of off-topic ramble)<BR><BR><BR>At 06:04 PM
02/07/2008, you wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">Hello all – hope your holidays are
fun<BR> <BR>Wow!! This is great – now I can have the best of all three
worlds…<BR> <BR>This seems like a great way to introduce yourself to
Ubuntu Linux (although the learning curve is not that steep) without
dedicating a whole machine to it, or having to worry about partitions and dual
booting.<BR> <BR><A
href="http://lifehacker.com/358208/seamlessly-run-linux-apps-on-your-windows-desktop">http://lifehacker.com/358208/seamlessly-run-linux-apps-on-your-windows-desktop</A>
<BR>...<BR><B>Roslyn Meadows<BR>Head of ICT Implementation<BR>Head of
Assessment and Reporting<BR>Bentleigh Secondary College
</B></BLOCKQUOTE><X-SIGSEP>
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