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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ciotti, George W<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 19 November 2015 3:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] 2015 IT Post Mortems - ITA and SD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Maybe it was designed to allow for the notion of equal rankings as a viable option?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From Wikepedia, and we know from a forgotten Fed minsiter that it’s a great source of knowledge…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#252525;background:white">&quot;A&nbsp;</span><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#252525">ranking</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#252525;background:white">&nbsp;is
 a relationship between a set of items such that, for any two items, the first is either 'ranked higher than', 'ranked lower than' or 'ranked equal to' the second.</span><sup id="cite_ref-1"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#252525"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranking#cite_note-1"><span style="color:#0B0080;text-decoration:none">[1]</span></a></span></sup><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#252525;background:white">&nbsp;In&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_theory" title="Order theory"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0B0080;text-decoration:none">mathematics</span></a></span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#252525;background:white">,
 this is known as a&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strict_weak_ordering#Total_preorders" title="Strict weak ordering"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0B0080;text-decoration:none">weak
 order or total preorder</span></a></span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#252525;background:white">&nbsp;of objects.
<b>It is not necessarily a&nbsp;</b></span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_order" title="Total order"><b><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0B0080;text-decoration:none">total
 order</span></b></a></span><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#252525;background:white">&nbsp;of objects because two different objects can have the same ranking</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#252525;background:white">.
 The rankings themselves are totally ordered. For example, materials are totally preordered by&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardness_(materials_science)" title="Hardness (materials science)"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0B0080;text-decoration:none">hardness</span></a></span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#252525;background:white">,
 while degrees of hardness are totally ordered.&quot;</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Mark &lt;<a href="mailto:mark@vceit.com">mark@vceit.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List &lt;<a href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">itapps@edulists.com.au</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Thu, 19 Nov 2015 11:55:27 &#43;1100<br>
<b>To: </b>Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List &lt;<a href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">itapps@edulists.com.au</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] 2015 IT Post Mortems - ITA and SD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Hi Christopher. B is the least-worst option.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">You're right: it allows people to give two or more genres the same ranking, but at least it forces the entry of a ranking for each genre, which the other options do not do.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&lt;morning grumble&gt;</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">And I still maintain that
<b>preventing</b> the input of invalid data is not really a 'validation technique'.&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Wikipedia says:&nbsp;&quot;In computer science, data validation is the process of ensuring that a program operates on clean, correct and useful data. It uses routines, often called &quot;validation
 rules&quot;, &quot;validation constraints&quot; or &quot;check routines&quot;, that check for correctness, meaningfulness, and security of data that are input to the system.&quot;</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">​</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Validition is an active process that verifies data that has
<i>already</i> been input into the system.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">It is more than the passive use of controls that prevent the entry of invalid data into the system.</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">​</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Trebuchet MS&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&lt;/morning grumble&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">On 19 November 2015 at 10:11, Christopher Jansen &lt;<a href="mailto:Christopher.Jansen@sjc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">Christopher.Jansen@sjc.vic.edu.au</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Mark, and others… &nbsp;would like to get your thoughts on this…
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">MC : Question 13</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">For option B</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If you group all radio buttons together then only on option could be selected.&nbsp; This is not ranking,
 just picking an option… </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If you group radio buttons horizontally then you could pick all ones for each type of music.. not a
 valid option as it does not rank. </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If you group radio buttons vertically then you could choose 1, 2,3, 4 for a single type of music…&nbsp;
 also not a valid option as it done not rank. </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">B is the best answer out of all of them… but still a very poor validation technique.. and not one I
 would use on a website for ranking. Ranking may be better served with a &nbsp;drag and drop scenario… or some fancy Java script and some drop down lists…</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 16 November 2015 3:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List; Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 IT Apps] 2015 IT Post Mortems - ITA and SD</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="http://vceit.com/p/postmortem-2015i.htm" target="_blank">2015 ITA Post Mortem</a> and
<a href="http://vceit.com/p/postmortem-2015s.htm" target="_blank">2015 SD Post Mortem</a> are available in early drafts.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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