<div dir="ltr">This discussion should be F10'd now.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Laurie Savage<br><a href="https://sites.google.com/a/pvgc.vic.edu.au/mr-savage/home" target="_blank">https://sites.google.com/a/pvgc.vic.edu.au/mr-savage/home</a><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 17 August 2015 at 14:17, Mark <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mark@vceit.com" target="_blank">mark@vceit.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Templates? Bah, humbug.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">REAL men memorised the combinations!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On 17 August 2015 at 14:09, Laurie Savage <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:08327998@pvgc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">08327998@pvgc.vic.edu.au</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr">I've still got the F key templates!</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Laurie Savage<br><a href="https://sites.google.com/a/pvgc.vic.edu.au/mr-savage/home" target="_blank">https://sites.google.com/a/pvgc.vic.edu.au/mr-savage/home</a><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On 17 August 2015 at 10:24, Roland Gesthuizen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rgesthuizen@gmail.com" target="_blank">rgesthuizen@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div class="h5"><div>Back off .. control K Z beats your function keys and constant sneak peek at print preview. lol</div><div><br></div><div>Seriously though, many years ago I had some fun with text files with a group of students, explaining to them that the control Z was how the computer system closed a file. I forgot how but we made some test files and examined them with an editor. We learned that this was how the computer knew precisely where the file had ended and the dragons fare in the lands beyond (and password fragments as all good hackers know). OK, now I am well off topic. Sorry everybody.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards Roland</div></div></div><div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><div>On 17 Aug 2015, at 10:09 am, Laurie Savage <<a href="mailto:08327998@pvgc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">08327998@pvgc.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:</div><br></div></div><div><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr">I'm afraid Wordstar was just before my time. WordPerfect 5.1 roolz!<div><br></div><div>Laurie</div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Laurie Savage<br><a href="https://sites.google.com/a/pvgc.vic.edu.au/mr-savage/home" target="_blank">https://sites.google.com/a/pvgc.vic.edu.au/mr-savage/home</a><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On 17 August 2015 at 09:44, Roland Gesthuizen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rgesthuizen@gmail.com" target="_blank">rgesthuizen@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div class="h5"><div>I still somewhere my membership certificate for the Wordstar Appreciation Society of Western Australia. Who needs fonts ;-) </div></div></div><div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><div>On 17 Aug 2015, at 8:41 am, Laurie Savage <<a href="mailto:08327998@pvgc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">08327998@pvgc.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:</div><br></div></div><div><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr">Ah, the wonders of Lynx, Mutt, Fetchmail and configuring Sendmail. Oh frabjous day, calloo, callay he chortled in his joy.<div><br></div><div>To be honest, I don't miss any of them ... except Mutt, arcane, fast and brilliant.</div><div><br></div><div>Laurie</div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Laurie Savage<br><a href="https://sites.google.com/a/pvgc.vic.edu.au/mr-savage/home" target="_blank">https://sites.google.com/a/pvgc.vic.edu.au/mr-savage/home</a><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On 15 August 2015 at 13:50, Roland Gesthuizen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rgesthuizen@gmail.com" target="_blank">rgesthuizen@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div class="h5">Did somebody say IE 6 emulator? <a href="http://netrenderer.com/" target="_blank">http://netrenderer.com/</a>, this German error screen brings back memories. What could be more retro than looking at the future with IE6 glasses.</div></div><div><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div>How about Lynx, an original that I used in the early 1990’s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_(web_browser)" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_(web_browser)</a></div><div><br></div><div>Regards Roland</div></div></div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><span><div>On 17 Jun 2015, at 9:04 pm, Mark <<a href="mailto:mark@vceit.com" target="_blank">mark@vceit.com</a>> wrote:</div><br></span></div></div><div><div><div class="h5"><div><div>Use Comic Sans for body text.<div>Use frames.</div><div>Animated GIFs rule.</div><div>CSS is a passing fad. Ignore it.</div><div>Stick with HTML 1.0 for compatibility with Internet Explorer 6.</div><div><br></div><div>That's all they need to know. All the rest is practice.</div><div>Hope that helps, Nagla.</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div class="h5"><div><div>Mark<br><br>On Wednesday, June 17, 2015, Mekail, Nagla N <<a href="mailto:mekail.nagla.n@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank">mekail.nagla.n@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:<br></div></div></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Jeb - bad president or bad font?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">But sir, he made fun of my typeface. Sob...<br>
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