<div dir="ltr">Hi Nagla,<div><br></div><div>I've only just looked back through these posts. I've used EW3 and straight HTML with year 9 students. I uploaded some EW3 material to the resources folder on the Edulists site. I also have a Wikispaces site that develops a project for my 9 systems class. </div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://mrsavagehtml101.wikispaces.com/">http://mrsavagehtml101.wikispaces.com/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Laurie</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Laurie Savage<br><a href="https://sites.google.com/a/pvgc.vic.edu.au/mr-savage/home" target="_blank">https://sites.google.com/a/pvgc.vic.edu.au/mr-savage/home</a><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 18 June 2015 at 09:51, Mekail, Nagla N <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mekail.nagla.n@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank">mekail.nagla.n@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Yes I am in Gov school, we have the eduStar but don’t you think that DW or EW a bit advanced for Y9.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Russo, Frank R<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 18 June 2015 8:27 AM</span></p><div><div class="h5"><br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Jeb - bad president or bad font? help<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hi Naglia<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Mark was just joking at first as you may have guessed.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I used to teach Yr9 and 10 IT and just used Frontpage in the good ol days.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I assume you are at a Gov school due to your email address so you have access to the Goverment eduStar Software.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">This gives you 2 options, Adobe Dreamweaver and Microsoft Expression Web if the kids have laptops/netbooks then they have access to these.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">If you are using an iPad then you could use iWeb?? Not sure what it is called.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Find what software you have…then you could try <a href="http://ict.com" target="_blank">ict.com</a>.,au which has tutorials for a lot of Adobe and Microsoft Products and is not expensive I highly recommend
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Or you could search for free stuff off the web sit down and have a go yourself at year 9 level I would keep it very simple.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hope this helps<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mekail, Nagla N<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 17 June 2015 8:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Jeb - bad president or bad font? help<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I am really need help, I have a “webpage authoring” Y9 class as first time teaching it and I have no idea what I should teach them, anything will help.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 17 June 2015 8:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Jeb - bad president or bad font?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But sir, he made fun of my typeface. Sob...<br>
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