<div dir="ltr">One of the problems with the user documentation part of the project is that a well designed spreadsheet should be almost self evident or self-documenting!<div><br></div><div>Laurie</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Laurie Savage<br><a href="https://sites.google.com/a/pvgc.vic.edu.au/mr-savage/home" target="_blank">https://sites.google.com/a/pvgc.vic.edu.au/mr-savage/home</a><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 23 July 2015 at 09:32, Andrew Pate <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:arp@mentonegrammar.net" target="_blank">arp@mentonegrammar.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">I have also used powerpoint in the past. This year my students have the skills to build a few simple pages and lay them out effectively with div and css or
 use a framework to do so.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">They were agast to think that within the SAC on spreadsheet they basically have to repeat SAC1 (albeit on a smaller scale)
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ciotti, George W<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 23 July 2015 9:10 AM<span class=""><br>
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</span></span></p><div><div class="h5"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] User guide/documentation for U401 advice<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">I have to disagree though, pdf is a multimedia authoring platform of great versatility. I suppose it comes down to knowing how to get these features out of it.
 But one issue is that students are not allowed to use the Acrobat application that enables these features. That means more hardcore InDesign work.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Last time I used Powerpoint and it worked successfully. Given that we&#39;re talking about a small component of the SAC it ranks in a similar league as the Web site
 prototype? As long as students can demonstrate an understanding of how a user guide/documentation can be applied to their solution and this can be operated <b>onscreen</b> it then satisfies the requirement. Correct me if I&#39;m wrong.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Reply-To: </b>Year 12 IT Applications Teachers&#39; Mailing List &lt;<a href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps@edulists.com.au</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Wed, 22 Jul 2015 14:15:16 +1000<br>
<b>To: </b>Year 12 IT Applications Teachers&#39; Mailing List &lt;<a href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps@edulists.com.au</a>&gt;<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">The relevant key skills for ITA U4O1 is &quot;use web authoring or
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<i>Multimedia</i> is.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">I&#39;ve argued in the past that MS Powerpoint is a valid multimedia authoring tool, and Paula wasn&#39;t even too sure about
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">On 22 July 2015 at 13:53, Ciotti, George W &lt;<a href="mailto:ciotti.george.w@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank">ciotti.george.w@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">I am looking to get my students to use InDesign to construct the Documentation component of the 401 SAC. It will be turned into a pdf and will demonstrate some
 interactivity. Before going down this route, I was wondering whether this satisfies the requirements for this component. I think I remember reading that PDFs do not meet requirements because they lack typical online features. Which of course is not true. It
 certainly falls in the multimedia, interactive and useable online criteria.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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