<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Here here, settle down everybody. Close that frame and put down that font before somebody gets seriously hurt. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I had too much fun with the “Websites that Suck” website .. design hell to teach good design skills. The author slipped into retirement and obscurity .. :-(</div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Here are some real clients from hell .. good share with your students: </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><a href="http://www.buzzfeed.com/jobarrow/sorry-did-you-actually-want-comic-sans" class="">http://www.buzzfeed.com/jobarrow/sorry-did-you-actually-want-comic-sans</a></div><div class=""><br class=""><div apple-content-edited="true" class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 17 Jun 2015, at 3:23 pm, Laurie Savage <<a href="mailto:08327998@pvgc.vic.edu.au" class="">08327998@pvgc.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">I promise not to show this to my year 9 Systems class, They'd love it too much. I still have a teacher who insists on building sites with frames and Flash.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Laurie Savage<br class=""><a href="https://sites.google.com/a/pvgc.vic.edu.au/mr-savage/home" target="_blank" class="">https://sites.google.com/a/pvgc.vic.edu.au/mr-savage/home</a><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On 17 June 2015 at 15:08, Mark <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:mark@vceit.com" target="_blank" class="">mark@vceit.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">I learned everything I know about web design from Warner Brothers.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It's got <i class="">frames</i> and everything!<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="http://www2.warnerbros.com/spacejam/movie/jam.htm" target="_blank" class="">http://www2.warnerbros.com/spacejam/movie/jam.htm</a><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I suggest you give it to your web design students as a salutary example.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Mark</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class=""><div class="h5"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On 17 June 2015 at 14:29, Mark <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:mark@vceit.com" target="_blank" class="">mark@vceit.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On 17 June 2015 at 14:09, Laurie Savage <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:08327998@pvgc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank" class="">08327998@pvgc.vic.edu.au</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">While we're talking about bad fonts ... you're not considering running for president are you? ^____^</div><div class=""> </div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" class="">I could do. I have a cognitive disability when it comes to design, as anyone who has been to <a href="http://vceit.com/" target="_blank" class="">vceit.com</a> can attest.</font><div class=""><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" class="">Some people are tone deaf. I'm design deaf.<br class=""></font><div class=""><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" class="">Anyway - what's wrong with the Angry Birds font??</font></div></div><div class=""><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" class="">Will you be telling me next that you don't like using delightfully whimsical Comic Sans for body text on webpages and in emails?</font></div><div class=""><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" class="">Philistine!</font></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Laurie Savage<br class=""><a href="https://sites.google.com/a/pvgc.vic.edu.au/mr-savage/home" target="_blank" class="">https://sites.google.com/a/pvgc.vic.edu.au/mr-savage/home</a><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On 17 June 2015 at 08:51, Mark <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:mark@vceit.com" target="_blank" class="">mark@vceit.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr" class="">I should have explained that the post was relevant to ITA because of design principles. :-)</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On 17 June 2015 at 08:49, Mark <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:mark@vceit.com" target="_blank" class="">mark@vceit.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr" class="">Sometimes fellow-tech people make me squirm in discomfort.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The U.S. is facing another possible silly season with another Bush in charge, and the tech writers are angry about the <i class="">typography</i> on his logo. It's good to see they know where their priorities lie.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="http://www.wired.com/2015/06/jeb-bush-logo-jeb/" target="_blank" class="">http://www.wired.com/2015/06/jeb-bush-logo-jeb/</a><span class=""><font color="#888888" class=""><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>-- <br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><i class=""><br class=""></i></div><div class=""><span style="font-size:12.66px" class="">You don't hate Mondays. You hate your job.</span><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Mark Kelly</div><div class=""><img src="https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0B4DRNqu3Y8sZMzZhNVhJS3NEXzQ&revid=0B4DRNqu3Y8sZaGY5bUlSU2ZmUlhVYTdLKzBCMGtXdkZhaTBVPQ" class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="http://vceit.com/" target="_blank" class="">http://vceit.com</a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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