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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>I doubt <b>every</b> student would get 100% whichever method you use.<br><br><div>> From: asullivan@tps.vic.edu.au<br>> To: itapps@edulists.com.au<br>> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 01:44:00 +0000<br>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] SACS and BYOD<br>> <br>> My two cents worth<br>> <br>> Having SAC's that run over multi periods is pretty unique to VCE IT<br>> <br>> The way you run and manage your VCE IT SAC's is really up to you<br>> <br>> Every school probably has a different approach<br>> <br>> Some schools allow notes, textbooks, network and internet access. Others run their SAC's a lot more like a test or an exam with no notes or assistance<br>> <br>> Remember the purpose of an assessment task is discriminate between your top student down to your bottom (for lack of a better word) student . In other words, rank your students in order of their understanding of the content for each outcome<br>> <br>> If you give a task that allows this discrimination or ranking to occur (with notes and network and internet access) then that is no problem<br>> <br>> But if you allow notes, etc. and every students gets 100% then it defeats the purpose of assessment task. You are not really identifying the order of ability in your class<br>> <br>> My approach and BYOD devices<br>> <br>> Students here use their own personal laptop for SAC's.<br>> <br>> I have network access turned off for these periods and collect the files from each student on USB at the end of the lesson<br>> <br>> I'm happy for them during a SAC (and I cannot really stop them) from accessing the files on their laptop of the practice tasks we completed leading up to the SAC<br>> <br>> I tell students this before the SAC to encourage them to complete all the practice tasks<br>> <br>> But as mentioned earlier this is my method that works for me and each school needs a method that works for them<br>> <br>> Anthony<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Anthony Sullivan<br>> Head of Information Technology | Commerce Faculty<br>> 20 Wooralla Drive, Mt. Eliza, Vic, 3930<br>> T: 03 9788 7796| F: 03 9787 7646 |asullivan@tps.vic.edu.au | www.tps.vic.edu.au<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Please consider the environment before printing this email, you will save 5g of paper, 250mL of water and at least 35gm of CO2<br>> This message, including any attachments, is provided without responsibility in law for its accuracy or otherwise and without assumption of a duty of care by the school. Whilst every attempt has been made to ensure material in this e-mail message is free from computer viruses or other defects, the attached files are provided, and may only be used, on the basis that the user assumes responsibility for the use of the material transmitted. This e-mail is intended for the use of the named individual or entity and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any dissemination, distribution or copying by anyone other than the intended recipient of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If this e-mail has been received in error then please notify The Peninsula School immediately and destroy the original message.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] On Behalf Of itapps-request@edulists.com.au<br>> Sent: Wednesday, 25 February 2015 12:00 PM<br>> To: itapps@edulists.com.au<br>> Subject: itapps Digest, Vol 120, Issue 25<br>> <br>> Send itapps mailing list submissions to<br>> itapps@edulists.com.au<br>> <br>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>> http://www.edulists.com.au/mailman/listinfo/itapps<br>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br>> itapps-request@edulists.com.au<br>> <br>> You can reach the person managing the list at<br>> itapps-owner@edulists.com.au<br>> <br>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of itapps digest..."<br>> <br>> <br>> Today's Topics:<br>> <br>> 1. SACS and BYOD (Lorraine Bignell)<br>> 2. Re: SACS and BYOD (Natalie H)<br>> 3. Re: SACS and BYOD (Mark)<br>> 4. Re: SACS and BYOD (David B. Thomas)<br>> <br>> <br>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 1<br>> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 21:33:57 +1100<br>> From: "Lorraine Bignell" <lbignell@netspace.net.au><br>> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] SACS and BYOD<br>> To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List"<br>> <itapps@edulists.com.au><br>> Message-ID:<br>> <b67c7927d4651bc190007487d2c7610aa0fee65d@webmail.netspace.net.au><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>> <br>> Hi All<br>> <br>> I was wondering how people cope with SACs and BYOD. Do you allow students to have access to the internet (and all that that entails) during SACs?<br>> <br>> Lorraine Bignell<br>> Kingswood College<br>> <br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: http://www.edulists.com.au/pipermail/itapps/attachments/20150224/f4a0eb9c/attachment-0001.html<br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 2<br>> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 22:08:07 +1100<br>> From: Natalie H <natinga71@yahoo.com><br>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] SACS and BYOD<br>> To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List"<br>> <itapps@edulists.com.au><br>> Message-ID: <9AC6103E-7ABD-4A38-B81E-82A3ACEBDA62@yahoo.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii<br>> <br>> I was wondering the same thing, but from the perspective of work authentication - what's to stop them working on tasks (or getting help from others) outside of class?<br>> <br>> Natalie Heath (Marcellin College)<br>> <br>> Sent from my iPhone<br>> <br>> > On 24 Feb 2015, at 9:33 pm, Lorraine Bignell <lbignell@netspace.net.au> wrote:<br>> ><br>> > Hi All<br>> ><br>> > I was wondering how people cope with SACs and BYOD. Do you allow students to have access to the internet (and all that that entails) during SACs?<br>> ><br>> > Lorraine Bignell<br>> > Kingswood College<br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > http://www.edulists.com.au - FAQ, resources, subscribe, unsubscribe IT<br>> > Applications Mailing List kindly supported by<br>> > http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/itapplications3-4.html<br>> > - Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority <br><br>> > http://www.vitta.org.au - VITTA Victorian Information Technology<br>> > Teachers Association Inc <br> http://www.swinburne.edu.au/ict/schools<br>> > - Swinburne University<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 3<br>> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 22:04:17 +1100<br>> From: Mark <mark@vceit.com><br>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] SACS and BYOD<br>> To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List"<br>> <itapps@edulists.com.au><br>> Message-ID:<br>> <CACu=8Z3ybwpEfwshSucRGbpBb+VEvkEpSSgvVt3mkytuM4A1qQ@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>> <br>> Hi Lorraine. I didn't limit kids' access to resources during practical SACS, but tests were always done with pen and paper - for exam practice - so using the internet was never an issue then either.<br>> <br>> On Tuesday, February 24, 2015, Lorraine Bignell <lbignell@netspace.net.au><br>> wrote:<br>> <br>> > Hi All<br>> ><br>> > I was wondering how people cope with SACs and BYOD. Do you allow<br>> > students to have access to the internet (and all that that entails) during SACs?<br>> ><br>> > Lorraine Bignell<br>> > Kingswood College<br>> ><br>> <br>> <br>> --<br>> <br>> Pedantic?* Whom, I??*<br>> <br>> Mark Kelly<br>> mark AT vceit DOT com<br>> http://vceit.com<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: http://www.edulists.com.au/pipermail/itapps/attachments/20150224/827252c9/attachment-0001.html<br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 4<br>> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 22:33:04 +1100<br>> From: "David B. Thomas" <david.b.thomas@rmit.edu.au><br>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] SACS and BYOD<br>> To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List"<br>> <itapps@edulists.com.au><br>> Message-ID:<br>> <CAEeadDmBN-T4khN-T4Q3wLVFQoQ6w9rauPpZQ5RfDHFttvyzBA@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>> <br>> Hi,<br>> I was wondering the same thing when I asked the question about what papers they can take into the SAC a couple of days ago.<br>> <br>> I now think that the answer is to let them use the internet. I doubt if they have time in the SAC to read up on how to analyse, design and develop a web site. By the time it comes to the SAC if they don't know the process by then it may be too late for them.<br>> <br>> I have decided to ask them to submit an analysis document at the end of SAC lesson 1, a design document at the end of SAC lesson 2 and a web site at the end of SAC lesson 4. If they want to talk to their friends about how to do something in dreamweaver that is a good thing.<br>> <br>> The students already know what the SAC is anyway it is published in the text book. It is only the brief that changes.<br>> <br>> On 24 February 2015 at 22:08, Natalie H <natinga71@yahoo.com> wrote:<br>> <br>> > I was wondering the same thing, but from the perspective of work<br>> > authentication - what's to stop them working on tasks (or getting help<br>> > from<br>> > others) outside of class?<br>> ><br>> > Natalie Heath (Marcellin College)<br>> ><br>> > Sent from my iPhone<br>> ><br>> > > On 24 Feb 2015, at 9:33 pm, Lorraine Bignell<br>> > > <lbignell@netspace.net.au><br>> > wrote:<br>> > ><br>> > > Hi All<br>> > ><br>> > > I was wondering how people cope with SACs and BYOD. Do you allow<br>> > students to have access to the internet (and all that that entails)<br>> > during SACs?<br>> > ><br>> > > Lorraine Bignell<br>> > > Kingswood College<br>> > > _______________________________________________<br>> > > http://www.edulists.com.au - FAQ, resources, subscribe, unsubscribe<br>> > > IT Applications Mailing List kindly supported by<br>> > > http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/itapplications3-4.ht<br>> > > ml<br>> > - Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority <br><br>> > > http://www.vitta.org.au - VITTA Victorian Information Technology<br>> > Teachers Association Inc <br><br>> > > http://www.swinburne.edu.au/ict/schools - Swinburne University<br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > http://www.edulists.com.au - FAQ, resources, subscribe, unsubscribe IT<br>> > Applications Mailing List kindly supported by<br>> > http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/itapplications3-4.html<br>> > - Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority <br><br>> > http://www.vitta.org.au - VITTA Victorian Information Technology<br>> > Teachers Association Inc <br> http://www.swinburne.edu.au/ict/schools<br>> > - Swinburne University<br>> ><br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: http://www.edulists.com.au/pipermail/itapps/attachments/20150224/49b7b8f4/attachment-0001.html<br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> itapps mailing list<br>> itapps@edulists.com.au<br>> http://www.edulists.com.au/mailman/listinfo/itapps<br>> <br>> <br>> End of itapps Digest, Vol 120, Issue 25<br>> ***************************************<br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> http://www.edulists.com.au - FAQ, resources, subscribe, unsubscribe<br>> IT Applications Mailing List kindly supported by<br>> http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/itapplications3-4.html - Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority <br><br>> http://www.vitta.org.au - VITTA Victorian Information Technology Teachers Association Inc <br><br>> http://www.swinburne.edu.au/ict/schools - Swinburne University<br></div> </div></body>
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