<div dir="ltr">Hi all.  Nelson is currently producing new texts for the new study design - Units 1-4, but - sadly - not for SD.<div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 11 September 2014 10:52, Andrew Shortell <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:shortell@get2me.net" target="_blank">shortell@get2me.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">given the number of students it is really not worthwhile for authors to write for this subject any more<div><br></div><div>(said sadly as an ex-authour)</div><div><br></div><div>Nelson supports the text but paper based texts are very expensive to actually produce, ship , handle, retail, count, etc etc</div><div><br><div>
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<br><div><div>On 11 Sep 2014, at 10:38 am, Victoria Farrell &lt;<a href="mailto:FarrellV@humegrammar.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">FarrellV@humegrammar.vic.edu.au</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-AU" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Of which text ? The Nelson?<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></div><div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><span> </span><a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]<span> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Howard, David<br><b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Thursday, 11 September 2014 8:35 AM<br><b>To:</b><span> </span>Year 12 IT Applications Teachers&#39; Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Text Books for Units 1- 4<u></u><u></u></span></div></div></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10.5pt">Im going with a class set of second hand. I only use the text for Unit 3 Outcome 1 and Unit 4 Outcome 2 anyway…<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10.5pt"> </span></div></div><div><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="540" style="width:405pt;background-color:white"><tbody><tr><td style="border-style:none none solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(197,12,30);border-bottom-width:1pt;padding:0.75pt"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><strong><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(2,67,125)">David Howard</span></strong><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(2,67,125)"><br></span><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(197,12,30)">Head of Learning Systems</span><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></td><td nowrap style="border-style:none none solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(197,12,30);border-bottom-width:1pt;padding:0.75pt"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;text-align:right"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><a href="http://twitter.com/StMichaelsGS" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:navy;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" src="https://services.stmichaels.vic.edu.au/community/icons/Icon_Twitter.png"></span></a>  <a href="https://services.stmichaels.vic.edu.au/fb.cfm" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:navy;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" src="https://services.stmichaels.vic.edu.au/community/icons/Icon_FB.png"></span></a>  <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/st-michael%27s-grammar-school" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:navy;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" src="https://services.stmichaels.vic.edu.au/community/icons/Icon_LinkedIn.png"></span></a><u></u><u></u></span></div></td></tr><tr><td valign="top" style="padding:0.75pt"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><strong><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(2,67,125)">25 Chapel Street, St Kilda VIC 3182 Australia</span></strong><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></div></td><td rowspan="2" valign="top" style="padding:0.75pt"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;text-align:right"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><a href="https://www.stmichaels.vic.edu.au/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:navy;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="113" height="75" src="https://services.stmichaels.vic.edu.au/community/logo/SMGS_Logo_tall_100_2013_96d.png"></span></a><u></u><u></u></span></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><span><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Are there any other texts available, or is it the best?</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">I’ll be teaching ITA Units 3 and 4 for the first time next year and need to confirm our Text book – I’m assuming the Nelson publication will be the best option…. Any other suggestions?</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><span><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Cheers,</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Vic</span><span><u></u><u></u></span></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10.5pt">_______________________________________________<br><a href="http://www.edulists.com.au/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">http://www.edulists.com.au</a><span> </span>- FAQ, resources, subscribe, unsubscribe<br>IT Applications Mailing List kindly supported by<br><a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/itapplications3-4.html" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/itapplications3-4.html</a><span> </span>- Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority &lt;br&gt;<br><a href="http://www.vitta.org.au/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">http://www.vitta.org.au</a><span> </span> - VITTA Victorian Information Technology Teachers Association Inc &lt;br&gt;<br><a href="http://www.swinburne.edu.au/ict/schools" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">http://www.swinburne.edu.au/ict/schools</a><span> </span>- Swinburne University<u></u><u></u></span></div></blockquote></div></div>_______________________________________________<br><a href="http://www.edulists.com.au" target="_blank">http://www.edulists.com.au</a> - FAQ, resources, subscribe, unsubscribe<br>IT Applications Mailing List kindly supported by<br><a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/itapplications3-4.html" target="_blank">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/itapplications3-4.html</a> - Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority &lt;br&gt;<br><a href="http://www.vitta.org.au" target="_blank">http://www.vitta.org.au</a>  - VITTA Victorian Information Technology Teachers Association Inc &lt;br&gt;<br><a href="http://www.swinburne.edu.au/ict/schools" target="_blank">http://www.swinburne.edu.au/ict/schools</a> - Swinburne University</div></blockquote></div><br></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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