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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>And could the driver sue for breach of copyright?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>John Schwartz<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Semi-retired<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Roland Gesthuizen<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 8 August 2014 11:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Copyright article<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hmm, I am also wondering who would claim copyright for any speed camera images that "have been taken" by a driver using their car? <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>(who must of course still pay the fine)<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>—<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Roland GESTHUIZEN<br></span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://about.me/rgesthuizen">http://about.me/rgesthuizen</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>On 8 Aug 2014, at 12:30 pm, Savage, John L <<a href="mailto:savage.john.l@edumail.vic.gov.au">savage.john.l@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><Quote></span><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>is copyright owned by the bunyip/Tasmanian Tiger/Loch Ness Monster/stray dog whose movement caused the photo to be taken? :-)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The Abominable Photographer?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>LS</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au"><span style='color:purple'>itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au"><span style='color:purple'>mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>ken price<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Friday, 8 August 2014 12:07 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Copyright article</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>And the original article prompts questions like "who owns the photos generated by automated devices" and "what about videos like <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3QrhdfLCO8"><span style='color:purple'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3QrhdfLCO8</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>(eagle flying with gopro strapped to its back)?"<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>There are also plenty of wildlife camera installations that take photos when they detect movement. If the camera owner isn't the owner of the photo, is copyright owned by the bunyip/Tasmanian Tiger/Loch Ness Monster/stray dog whose movement caused the photo to be taken? :-)<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>ken.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[mailto:<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>ATKINSON-BUCK, Damien<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Friday, 8 August 2014 11:26 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[Year 12 IT Apps] Copyright article</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Copyright laws are going bananas! <insert other monkey puns><span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'>J</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="http://www.theage.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/wikimedia-sides-with-monkey-in-photo-copyright-battle-over-macaques-selfie-20140807-1019jl.html" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>http://www.theage.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/wikimedia-sides-with-monkey-in-photo-copyright-battle-over-macaques-selfie-20140807-1019jl.html</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Could be a nice discussion starter leading into U402</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Damien</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#880231'><br></span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#82002C'>Damien</span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#880231'> </span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#880231'>Atkinson-Buck</span></b><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Head of Learning Area: Technology/Arts</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=3 cellpadding=0><tr><td style='padding:.75pt 36.0pt .75pt .75pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>p:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="tel:%2B61%203%209490%203848" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>+61 3 9490 3848</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></td><td style='padding:.75pt 36.0pt .75pt .75pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>e:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:damien.atkinson-buck@ivanhoe.com.au" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>damien.atkinson-buck@ivanhoe.com.au</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>f:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="tel:%2B61%203%209490%203490" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>+61 3 9490 3490</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>w:</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="http://www.ivanhoe.com.au/" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>www.ivanhoe.com.au</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>w:</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="http://www.ivanhoe100.com.au/" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>www.ivanhoe100.com.au</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></td></tr></table><div><p class=MsoNormal><image001.jpg><br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Important -<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>This email and any attachments may be confidential. 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