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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Geoff<BR> <BR>Would like to express my thanks for your reply and am grateful that you bothered to make an effort to assist me with my query. But then I am not judging the message on the basis of one word.<BR> <BR>Leanne Wright - Epping Secondary College<br> <BR><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: savage.john.l@edumail.vic.gov.au<br>To: itapps@edulists.com.au<br>Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 01:01:36 +0000<br>Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Windows 8.1<br><br>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Thanks Geoff,</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>I’m pretty insensitive to most things – I think I rate fairly high on the “artistic spectrum”, but that word has been irritating me a lot lately. It could be
used to describe most of the kids I’ve worked with because most of my schools have been working class state schools, and I wouldn’t swap them for the other lot (been there, done that).</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Laurie</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>“I’m wearing women’s slacks” - Moss</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style='font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;' lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style='font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;' lang="EN-US"> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Hutchison, Geoffrey G<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 16 December 2013 9:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Windows 8.1</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>I unreservedly withdraw the use of the word ‘bogan’ Apologies to all.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Geoff</span></p>
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<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Savage, John L<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 16 December 2013 8:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Windows 8.1</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Geoff:</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;' lang="EN-NZ"> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;' lang="EN-NZ">Re: “bogan schools”</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Would you like to elaborate on the meaning of this term, or am I the only person on this list who finds the word smug, condescending and offensive?
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Laurie Savage</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Pascoe Vale Girls College</span></p>
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<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Hutchison, Geoffrey G<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 14 December 2013 12:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Windows 8.1</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;' lang="EN-NZ">Jeez I laugh when I hear a tech say something is “mandated” by the DEECD. Look at the “ultranet” fiasco – some schools didn’t touch it with a barge
pole (the sensible ones), other fell in line, yet the “ultranet” was ‘mandated’. Lol</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;' lang="EN-NZ">The dept may well be distributing software as a standard image, but there are plenty of different images available.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;' lang="EN-NZ">Reality is: schools decide for themselves: the tech savvy ones are well on the way to setting up their own SOEs and other needs; the bogan schools
follow a tech line for “mandated” use. </span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;' lang="EN-NZ">Sadly Leanne, your school may be one of the latter. Quality of school management and tech people is all. (You never know, the needs of staff and
kids may get a look in. Lol)</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;' lang="EN-NZ">Geoff Hutchison</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style='font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;' lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style='font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;' lang="EN-US">
<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Van Der Westhuizen, Eugene Y<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 13 December 2013 8:20 a.m.<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Windows 8.1</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose" target="_blank"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Hi Leanne,</span></a><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'></span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>I believe this is happening, presumably as a Department directive. I found out by accident when I saw all the computer lab computers with Windows 8.1 on them.
A few of us will be trialling the new OS on our laptops over the holidays with a view to changing all staff laptops over during next year.
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>Thanks,</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><i><span style='color: rgb(95, 73, 122); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt;'>Eugene Van der Westhuizen</span></i></b><span style='color: black; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'></span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><i><span style='color: black; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>Gleneagles Secondary College</span></i></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><i><span style='color: black; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>Endeavour Hills, 3802</span></i></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><i><span style='color: black; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>phone: 9708 1319</span></i></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><i><span style='color: black; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>fax: 9708 1324</span></i></p>
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<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Leanne Wright<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 13 December 2013 7:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">itapps@edulists.com.au</a>; <a href="mailto:yr11it@edulists.com.au">
yr11it@edulists.com.au</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 IT Apps] Windows 8.1</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";'>I have been informed by our computer manager that the Department has mandated the use of the above operating system on all school computers including those in classrooms. As I have not been
shown the communication from the Department which states this, could someone please tell me if this is the case.
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Thanks in advance - Leanne Wright<br>
Epping Secondary College<br>
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