<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">We need to be clear and align with the skills that are being asked. Increasingly my friends in ye' olde big world build and publish using content management systems (Drupal, Joomla, wikis etc.) My school continues to use Dream Weaver.<div><br></div><div>Google Sites may be an interesting way forward, especially if we consider how to best manage and assess the work of a team who are working online together. I'd agree with Jarrod that it is very easy to open and close access to a site and authenticate usage.<div><div apple-content-edited="true"></div></div></div><div><br></div><div>Timely discussion. There is a trend and interest with device such as Chromebooks. Whilst they may not suit everybodies ICT taste or VCEIT needs, I also notice that we seem to have a doubling of what can be done online every two years. Four years ago we were just editing basic word docs, then came spreadsheets .. then more. I can see cracks starting to happen with our VCE IT subject that is firmly anchored in desktop solutions and like others on this list. We can expect more of this to happen over the next decade, just check out the horizon report: <a href="http://www.nmc.org/pdf/2013-horizon-report-k12.pdf">http://www.nmc.org/pdf/2013-horizon-report-k12.pdf</a><br><div><br></div><div><div><div apple-content-edited="true"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Regards Roland<br><br><b>Roland GESTHUIZEN</b><br><a href="http://about.me/rgesthuizen">http://about.me/rgesthuizen</a></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span><img height="153" width="551" apple-inline="yes" id="00B6830D-CB5F-477D-B3C1-48A6A760C50E" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:4BBF5335-2F81-4116-95D6-A35FE8963D3D"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;">"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed it is the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead</span>
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<br><div><div>On 27 Nov 2013, at 2:09 pm, Savage, John L <<a href="mailto:savage.john.l@edumail.vic.gov.au">savage.john.l@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-AU" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I’m not too comfortable with the fit between<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://sites.google.com/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">sites.google.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and CSS from a skills perspective. While an author can select attributes:values for tags, I’m not convinced that that demonstrates the skills to edit the html or a style sheet, or maybe I’m making it too difficult. As far as the key skills for AOS1 go “Sites” looks OK. But if I remember, this was discussed last year and online web-creation software was ruled out. Maybe Paula could clarify this.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Laurie Savage<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Pascoe Vale Girls College<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Van Der Westhuizen, Eugene Y<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, 26 November 2013 9:22 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Year 12 IT Apps] Web authoring software<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Hi,</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I am looking at the options for web authoring software to use in unit 1 and unit 3 next year and would like any feedback about using Google Sites. I’ve used Expression Web and DreamWeaver over the last couple of years but a number of students this year asked whether they could have used Google Sites. As far as I can see from the VCAA site the software needs to incorporate the following items:<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(246, 249, 250);"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Web authoring software</span></b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><ul type="square" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(246, 249, 250);"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">cascading style sheet<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(246, 249, 250);"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">edit and format content<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(246, 249, 250);"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">links (relative and absolute links, internal and external links)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(246, 249, 250);"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">navigation<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(246, 249, 250);"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">buttons<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(246, 249, 250);"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">screen layout<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(246, 249, 250);"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">tagging (metadata tags, alt tags)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(246, 249, 250);"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">forms<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-color: rgb(246, 249, 250);"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">incorporate images/sound<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">As far as I can see from this list Google Sites would meet the requirements and want to offer this an another alternative. Has anyone gone down this path before? I’d appreciate any feedback.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Thanks,</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><i><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(95, 73, 122);">Eugene Van der Westhuizen</span></i></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><i><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Gleneagles Secondary College<o:p></o:p></span></i></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><i><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Reema Boulevard<o:p></o:p></span></i></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><i><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Endeavour Hills, 3802<o:p></o:p></span></i></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><i><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">phone: 9708 1319<o:p></o:p></span></i></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><i><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">fax: 9708 1324<o:p></o:p></span></i></div></div><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b>Important -<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>This email and any attachments may be confidential. 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