<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Hi Robert </div><div><br></div><div>To me, after reading all the list emails, text is the only possible entry data type</div><div>Any text data can be converted to number if the programmer wants to do a spread / range check</div><div><br></div><div>When I wrote exams for Monash Uni and RMIT Uni I ensured that students understood that postcodes and phone numbers were text. This was over ten years ago.</div><div><br></div><div>I had just assumed that Paula had replied to Mark off list.....</div><div><br></div><div>If the exam does not treat postcodes and phone numbers as text then it needs to be fixed before the final print run in early August. It is an expensive exercise to reprint 1500 PAPER (droll emphasis on paper) exams</div><div><br></div><div>After all of the list discussion the only people who would be teaching postcodes as number would be those who don't read the lists.</div><div>I always use postcodes as the great example of things where one has to think carefully about what is actually done with the data . This is why data dictionaries are so important (in hindsight)</div><div><br></div><div>Andrew<br><div><br></div><div>Andrew Shortell</div><div>Educator</div><div>CRC Melton</div><div><br></div><div><a href="mailto:shortell@get2me.net">shortell@get2me.net</a> (lists)</div><div><a href="mailto:andrew@get2me.net">andrew@get2me.net</a> (personal)</div><div>@acsbear (twitter)</div><div>VITTA CoM member</div><div>Skype: acshortell</div><div><br></div><div>Sent from my iPad</div></div><div><br>On 08/07/2013, at 3:00 PM, "Robert Hind" <<a href="mailto:robert@yinnar.com">robert@yinnar.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">I sympathise with Mark :-)</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Paula does seem to have forgotten to follow up on
her 30 May email where she said, in response to a query from Mark re the data
type for post codes</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">"<font size="3" face="Times New Roman">Will consult
with relevant colleagues and get back to you. "</font></font></div><font size="2" face="Arial"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"></font>
</font><div><font size="2" face="Arial"><br><br>It </font><font size="2" face="Arial"> would be useful information
for us all to have.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Robert Hind<br>Retired<br>Ex Traralgon and
Ashwood</font></div>
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