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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Shortell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 5 June 2013 8:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Data type for postcode<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I believe that we have cleared up any misconceptions and conclusively shown that anything other than text for postcodes is a very poor choice.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 05/06/2013, at 1:49 AM, Margaret Lawson <<a href="mailto:margaret.lawson@konstantkaos.net">margaret.lawson@konstantkaos.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Perhaps we should have another mailing list for post codes, judging by the discussion.<br>
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Given that this will impact on the marking of exams, perhaps we can suggest that more detail is included into the next study design so that there are not these discrepancies in interpretation of the study design.<br>
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Regards Roland<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:middle"><span style="color:#9FA2A5">4 June 2013 12:55 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">I am reliably told that 1964, the U.S. Postal Service granted Smokey<br>
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DoE Tasmania<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">OK. I'm seriously thinking of compiling this thread into a series of textbooks, starting with: "The Joy of Postal Codes, Volume 1: the Database Storage Issues."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">From memory in London, the two letters at the end of the postcode numbers were only used to help divide up the mail for the postal delivery routes. Nothing special but I may be wrong.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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England</span></a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#888888;background:white"> region. Also in the '0' region are </span><span style="color:#888888"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey" title="New Jersey"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0B0080;background:white;text-decoration:none">New
Jersey</span></a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#888888;background:white"> (non-contiguous with the remainder of the '0' area), </span><span style="color:#888888"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico" title="Puerto Rico"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0B0080;background:white;text-decoration:none">Puerto
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Asia</span></a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#888888;background:white"> and aboard vessels based in the waters adjoining those lands; APO/FPO addresses are also used by U.S. diplomatic and consulary facilities.
The lowest ZIP code is in </span><span style="color:#888888"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holtsville,_New_York" title="Holtsville, New York"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";background:white;text-decoration:none">Holtsville,
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Internal Revenue Service</span></a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#888888"> center there). </span><span style="color:#888888"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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