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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi Stephanie,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Neither Wonderful nor Wise, but certainly older
than Mark :-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>To add to Mark Scott's response to your question. I
do not agree with Mark.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The study design clearly states that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>"<FONT face=TimesNewRomanPSMT><FONT
face=TimesNewRomanPSMT>The award of satisfactory completion for a unit is based
on a decision that the student has demonstrated </FONT></FONT><FONT
face=TimesNewRomanPSMT><FONT face=TimesNewRomanPSMT>achievement of the set of
outcomes specified for the unit. This decision will be based on the teacher’s
assessment of the student’s performance on assessment tasks designated for the
unit."</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>So in terms of Unit 3 Outcome 2, Task 1, the
student would have to</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2> </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>"<SPAN
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lang=EN-GB>Design, and develop using a relational database management system, a
solution to an information problem"</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"
lang=EN-GB></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN
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lang=EN-GB>This does require the student to, amongst other things: ( See
Assessment Handbook )</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="TEXT-INDENT: -19.85pt; MARGIN: 4pt 0cm 0pt 19.85pt"
class=NormalBullet><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>select and use appropriate
software functions of relational database management software, as published
annually in the <I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">VCAA Bulletin VCE, VCAL
and VET</I>, to <U>create</U> database tables, <U>relationships</U> among them
and to <U>construct queries to retrieve</U> required information</FONT></FONT>
<FONT size=2 face=Arial>(underlining mine)</FONT></DIV></LI></UL>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>If your student did not do this then he <U>should
not get an S</U>. By your description he did not did not do all
this.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>By all means give him a chance to redeem himself,
in fact you should do this.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Robert Hind</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Retired</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Ex Traralgon and Ashwood</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Stephanie POLAN<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 4 June 2013 3:21
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<P class=MsoNormal>Good Afternoon Wonderfully Wise People,<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I'm looking for your professional opinion on the topic of
how much work a student must produce in order to gain an S on outcome 2 unit
3.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I have a student that opened Access, created a table,
created a query that didn't do anything 'query-like' he did all the sorting
and calculating outside of Access. <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Apparently this is enough to get an
S. <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>This is my first year teaching year 12 and find this
concept unbelievable, I can not comprehend this. <BR
clear=all><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Your professional opinion/coping strategies would be
much appreciated. <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Steph Polan<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Miss Polan<o:p></o:p></P>
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