Sorry folks. That was meant to be offlist... I clicked SEND before my usual destination check.<div>Please ignore it.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 29 November 2012 07:58, Mark KELLY <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">OFFLIST<div>Hi Mark. I don't pretend my normalisation theory is perfect, but it's based on a lot of research. And what the markers were expecting is not necessarily industry-standard, as we have come to know :-)</div>
<div><br></div><div>And I've never heard of formulas being removed to become 3NF...</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>Mark</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 28 November 2012 17:15, Mark Scott <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:msc@luther.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">msc@luther.vic.edu.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-AU" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Mark<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">That’s fine but... (sent just to you)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I didn’t agree with your definition of normalisation.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The feedback I am getting re q9 from a exam marker is that<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><span>1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Split the fields <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><span>2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Split the tables<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><span>3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Remove the formula from the tables.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">...was what they were looking for.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">thanks<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Mark<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 28 November 2012 5:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] UTA U4O1 annotated visual report (AVR)<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">
<u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">My approach now is that if VCAA does not define a term or concept, it's our job to do it.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt">
<u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">On 28 November 2012 15:28, Mark Scott <<a href="mailto:msc@luther.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">msc@luther.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I’m still waiting for an explanation of the Normalisation process from VCAA.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 28 November 2012 3:16 PM<br><b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 IT Apps] UTA U4O1 annotated visual report (AVR)</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">
<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Hi all. The VCAA report on 2011 outcomes mentioned that the vast minority of schools chose the annotated visual report option, but I have yet to actually see what a good one actually should look like.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">I've had a think about it, and have not had a lot of luck seeing how an AVR could visually represent <i>strategies</i> for evaluating a solution and user documentation.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Since I have not seen a VCAA model of what they think an AVR should look like, has anyone got what they consider to be a jolly good example of an AVR?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">I'm quite curious!<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">
<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt">Thanks in advance<span style="color:#888888"><br clear="all"></span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="color:#888888"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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