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<DIV></DIV><br><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Shortell<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 13 November 2012 2:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] 2012 VCAA Exam Chat<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222;background:white'>MC 6 C (eval criteria -- as a developer you are going to make sure it meets eval criteria before delivery so that it does not come back and you get paid for it)</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222'>mc 12 D (test actual boundaries to include what must be in)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222'>mc 16 A (B says can and cannot <b>-->it needs to say</b> should and should not so B is looking into the past and A is looking to the future)<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222'>am looking forward to examiner's report already and the dogs breakfast judgement from our pre-eminent list members<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#222222'>Andrew Shortell<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#222222'>Educator<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#222222'>CRC Melton<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#222222'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#222222'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#222222'><a href="mailto:shortell@get2me.net" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC'>shortell@get2me.net</span></a> (This List)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#222222'>@acsbear8 (twitter)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#222222'>VITTA CoM Member<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>On 13 November 2012 14:25, Jackson Bates <<a href="mailto:bates.j@wcc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">bates.j@wcc.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Thanks, Heath.<br><br>My only discrepancy was Q6 - I suggested A, which while worded to make it seem haphazard, implies testing. I figured the other three would all be part of evaluation.<br><br>Section B Question 9 was a bit of a worry...Did they want the kids to draw a 2NF set of tables and then a 3NF set of tables? I just jumped straight to 3NF and described what it would look like at each step. (Didn't use the second page at all...)<br><br>Also, Section B Q6...did everyone interpret that as "Facebook. Discuss."?<br><br>General impression...apart from interpreting what the examiners actually wanted, it seemed like an easy paper.<br><br>Jackson Bates<br>VCE English and IT Applications Teacher<br>Learning Technologies Coordinator<br>Finney House Coordinator<br><br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] On Behalf Of <a href="mailto:itapps-request@edulists.com.au">itapps-request@edulists.com.au</a><br>Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 1:59 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">itapps@edulists.com.au</a><br>Subject: itapps Digest, Vol 93, Issue 14<br><br>Send itapps mailing list submissions to<br> <a href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">itapps@edulists.com.au</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="http://www.edulists.com.au/mailman/listinfo/itapps" target="_blank">http://www.edulists.com.au/mailman/listinfo/itapps</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> <a href="mailto:itapps-request@edulists.com.au">itapps-request@edulists.com.au</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a href="mailto:itapps-owner@edulists.com.au">itapps-owner@edulists.com.au</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of itapps digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. 2012 VCAA Exam Chat (Matheson, Heath A)<br> 2. Re: Teaching year 11 IT and IT applications (Rob Minato)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 02:20:24 +0000<br>From: "Matheson, Heath A" <<a href="mailto:Matheson.Heath.A@edumail.vic.gov.au">Matheson.Heath.A@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] 2012 VCAA Exam Chat<br>To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List"<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <<a href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">itapps@edulists.com.au</a>><br>Message-ID:<br> <<a href="mailto:9247A99C96AAE04C97860E0688C830DB198A7298@EDUMBX08.education.vic.gov.au">9247A99C96AAE04C97860E0688C830DB198A7298@EDUMBX08.education.vic.gov.au</a>><br><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><br>Heya All,<br><br>I'll volunteer to make the first mistakes. Quick glance at multi-choice:<br><br>1. B (easy starter nice)<br><br>2. C<br><br>3. D<br><br>4. C<br><br>5. C<br><br>6. B<br><br>7. C<br><br>8. D<br><br>9. B<br><br>10. D<br><br>11. B<br><br>12. B<br><br>13. B<br><br>14. D<br><br>15. A<br><br>16. B<br><br>17. A<br><br>18. C<br><br>19. D<br><br>20. A<br><br>A big thanks to Andrew Pate from my two (out of five) students who showed up to class this morning where we concentrated on "the big question". I thought VCAA might have made it a little more structured after last year's low response.<br><br>At least in this examiners report we will have a definite VCAA version of the normal forms. Hopefully it won't have any surprises.<br><br><br>Cheers,<br>Heath Matheson<br>Mount Beauty Secondary College<br><br><br>Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. 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