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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Hutchison, Geoffrey G<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 4 September 2012 9:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] VCAA vs VCAA and the NPP's<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Better still, a tattoo on the forearm.<br>
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On 4/09/12 5:45 PM, "Mark Scott" <<a href="msc@luther.vic.edu.au">msc@luther.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Good idea we could put the number on a card and maybe call it The Australia Card.<br>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Hind<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 4 September 2012 4:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] VCAA vs VCAA and the NPP's<br>
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</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Interesting indeed.<br>
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</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">We have not yet gone down the track of one definitive number for each person - as the SSN in the US. But I am sure will go there. At least it will mean I don't have to remember all those different numbers:
Medicare, Seniors card, Centre link CRN, etc.<br>
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</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">So perhaps a basic number imposed from the top might be a good idea. NPP notwithstanding.<br>
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</span><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Natalie H <<a href="mailto:natinga71@yahoo.com">mailto:natinga71@yahoo.com</a>> <br>
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</span><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Tuesday, September 04, 2012 4:26 PM<br>
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</span>So.... Why do they need a separate Vic student number? And they'll get another with the National Curriculum too I suspect.
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</span>All interesting.<br>
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On 04/09/2012, at 4:12 PM, Mark KELLY <<a href="kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span>Any lawyers aboard? <br>
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I'd say VCAA and VTAC are probably considered part of the same organisation (under the DEECD umbrella, perhaps) and thus may use the same identifier.<br>
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</span>On 4 September 2012 14:49, ATKINSON-BUCK, Damien <<a href="Damien.ATKINSON-BUCK@ivanhoe.com.au">Damien.ATKINSON-BUCK@ivanhoe.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Hi folks,<br>
I was going through the NPP’s with my year 12’s today. When we were discussing NPP 7 Identifiers (see below) one of my students asked why VCAA and VTAC both use their student numbers as the primary identifier. Does anyone out there know if this
is indeed the case and if so, how they are allowed to do it, they are separate entities aren’t they?
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