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I think while I agree with your general thrust Andrew, it is most
definitely the case that no one sued you into oblivion when the Arab
spring went wrong! Facebook et al leaves oh so many untested
potential legal liabilities that I will not be opening access to it
via our network for the foreseeable future. The philosophy
underpinning knowledge and communication in schools has to be
tempered with exigent reality, whether we might like it or not<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Regards,
Brett Groves
ICT Manager
Croydon Secondary College</pre>
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On 14/03/12 20:22, Andrew Shortell wrote:
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<div>Myspace is so "early last decade" and facebook is so last
decade</div>
<div>surely we have moved past these outdated social anachronisms</div>
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<div>Are we not about creating a learning experience that leads
our students to a greater awareness of the possibilities of
their life?</div>
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<div>if the Arab Spring can launch on the back of twitter (have
you read how popular twitter is in Indonesia?) then...</div>
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<div>if a teacher's class control is so poor/so low that the
students spend their time on social media instead of on the
learning experience that the teacher is facilitating then ...</div>
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<div>this ancient paradigm of teaching is so last century or is it
the century before?</div>
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<div>any how off my soap box and back to marking SACs - god i love
summative assessment -- not</div>
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<div>On 14/03/2012, at 5:44 PM, Pearse, Steven S wrote:</div>
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<div>I can't believe that we are having the conversation
about whether to unblock youtube or not - especially for
teachers. I always look around the net for interesting
things that relate to the content that I teach to make it
more relatable - Countless times I have found a site that
I wanted to access that has blocked (not by our school,
but by netspace (aka 'the department') It makes me sad and
angry that our jobs are being made hard by people that are
outside our classroom and they are deciding what we can
and can't show in our classes. (For the record - it was a
business management game that was blocked that made me
rant about this, but there has been many many more
occasions like this)<br>
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Open to students? Well that is another issue - I
personally don't mind, although it does bring other
classroom management issues to the surface(headphones,
etc). But really, if students are going to "become
distracted by it" what is stopping them from bringing in a
memory stick with content on it, or finding online games
(we can't block everything!) It seems like we are scared
to let the kids open to the real world while we are under
supervision, but they can access anything they like
outside of school (or on their phone which is sitting next
to them!!!! )(how many parents watch their kids on the
net???.....) Don't get me started on the government
censor.... A situation occurred today where a student
had to get an email from a website that I sent them, and
their email was blocked - so they downloaded the key on
their phone and then entered it into the website....
*shakes head* (and yes, they were told to use their
school email account :)<br>
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In my experience, youtube gets abused when an extra is
being taken, and the kids have free reign (or a teacher
has a teaching method of sitting at the front of the class
for 70 minutes...)<br>
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<br>
Getting back on topic - I'm not advocating that we enable
Facebook or MySpace(so 2004!) (even though I think that
they also could be useful) My argument is that YouTube is
such a valuable resource, to deny teachers access to it is
almost as bad as denying students access to technology in
the first place. <br>
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<br>
<br>
teachertube for what it is worth is rubbish when comparing
it to youtube.<br>
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My two cents worth....<br>
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Steve Pearse<br>
Narre Warren P-12<br>
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We allow full access to YouTube. It helps having a
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We have YouTube open for teachers and any video they want
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Hi Everyone<br>
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Just a general question as to whether your school
allows/unblocks YouTube for ITA usage (or any other
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There's a bit of pressure here for me to open it up, when
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