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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">How about people just install different web browsers on USB drives and run directly from that. That is how we will be solving our issues, most web browsers
allow this<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 6 March 2012 1:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Multiple internet browsers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">You're probably right. The testing of a prototype would necessarily be less complex than that of a real site, but it still needs to be tested to ensure it fulfils its (limited) role.<br>
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I guess that cross-browser testing may be wise if the prototype needs to be displayed on different people's computers with different browsers.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 6 March 2012 13:17, Ciotti, George W <<a href="mailto:ciotti.george.w@edumail.vic.gov.au">ciotti.george.w@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Just a query. Aren't we getting ahead of ourselves here? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Prototype websites are more about intent than actual functionality. It needs enough functionality to explain the developers' intent and could and usually is produced with
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">We are telling students that it is ONLY a prototype, so why should it be necessary to test it on multiple browsers. The design consideration is that the developer should
target a variety of browsers but shouldn't this be a consideration that can only really be tested, hence implemented in the full development phase? Which of course is impossible to achieve within the SAC environment. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The browser in this instance only really acts as a tool to propel the prototype and provide the sense that it runs on the web. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Paul Golub <<a href="mailto:golupau@santamaria.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">golupau@santamaria.vic.edu.au</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps@edulists.com.au</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Mon, 5 Mar 2012 23:34:00 +0000<br>
<b>To: </b>Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps@edulists.com.au</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Multiple internet browsers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">it's the only browser we have so I guess we don't have much of a choice.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">We probably should have others to better test the websites.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">When I next bump into the techie, I'll ask him why we don't have others.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Our Ipads have Safari so maybe we can get the websites onto the iPads.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">
<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] on behalf of Travis Parker [<a href="mailto:Travis.Parker@beaconhills.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">Travis.Parker@beaconhills.vic.edu.au</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 6 March 2012 8:47 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Multiple internet browsers</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Mark,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I think you answered your own question – Seriously, who would use IE by choice?!?!?!?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 6 March 2012 8:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Multiple internet browsers</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">Only IE?
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On 6 March 2012 08:05, Paul Golub <<a href="mailto:golupau@santamaria.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">golupau@santamaria.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">my students don't have access to multiple browers. We only have IE and that's all we use.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">9489 7644</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 IT Apps] Multiple internet browsers</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">I know from the study design that students need to understand that websites can appear differently in different browsers. During the sac do your students have
access to multiple browsers to test their websites on?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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