The warning about not using databases with programs was in the VCAA bulletin that listed the approved languages for 2011. It said in part:<p><i>With all of the above languages, databases are <strong>not</strong>
to be used to support the construction of solutions. Students should be
able to demonstrate the highest level of achievement using only the
selected programming language. Additional languages can be used to
embellish a solution, for example JavaScript with web pages; however,
these would be supplementary to the main language and not replace it.</i></p><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 6 December 2011 00:16, Brett Groves <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:groves.brett.g@edumail.vic.gov.au">groves.brett.g@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Hi Robert,<br>
<br>
I noticed afterward that this came through in the Apps not SD list.
So I guess the database quip was doubly incorrect. I guess you could
use rails as an RDBMS but I think you'd spend much more time
teaching the students ruby than the niceties of normalised forms.
Oddly I am absolutely certain I've seen a quite explicit prohibition
on SQL/MYSQL data stores for SD outcome tasks. Been back through the
study design and advice, albeit with some brevity since like
everyone else I am arm deep in reports, but I cannot find that
reference. Fairly certain I'm not hallucinating, that only happens
beyond report 100 usually :-) It was discussed at some length in
threads on the SD list in 2009/10 and there was some debate around
the relative merits of using comparatively primitive data storage
containers. Perhaps, more knowledgeable heads than mine can shed
more light on this apprehension. Now back to reports :-(<div class="im"><br>
<pre cols="72">Regards,
Brett Groves
ICT Manager
Croydon Secondary College</pre>
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On 05/12/11 16:46, Timmer-Arends wrote:
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Hello Brett</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">"<font face="Times New
Roman" size="3">the study design specifically outlaws databases and
insists on text base data storage "</font></font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I'm curious to know where it says
this?</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Regards</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Robert T-A</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Brighton SC</font></div>
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<div style="background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(228,228,228);font:10pt arial"><b>From:</b> <a title="groves.brett.g@edumail.vic.gov.au" href="mailto:groves.brett.g@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank">Brett Groves</a>
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<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="itapps@edulists.com.au" href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">Year 12 IT Applications
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<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 05,
2011 11:39 AM</div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT
Apps] Anyone using Ruby for IT at Year 12/11</div>
<div><br>
</div>
Yes we used Ruby and Shooes for the gui last year. Mixed
results, much slower for me to help students debug, generally
easier for rapid development but students would have universally
preferred VbNet. The most issues I found were around the lack of
a really good gui generator, basically Shooes sucks for anything
but the simplest gui. On the plus side if you use Netbeans as
your IDE it supports both Ruby and Rails brilliantly, great to
work with. A word of caution though the study design
specifically outlaws databases and insists on text base data
storage so Rails is of no use to you whatsoever. Cheers<br>
<pre cols="72">Regards,
Brett Groves
ICT Manager
Croydon Secondary College</pre>
<br>
On 05/12/11 11:22, Ciotti, George W wrote:
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<div>Hi,</div>
<div>I was just wondering whether anyone is or has used Ruby?
More commonly known as Ruby on Rails or just Rails. It seems
like an interesting environment that could be used in ITA
and ITSD. I am currently learning the language and even from
the early stages of the tutorials it seems a very good fit
for senior IT classes. </div>
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<div>Thanks in advance</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>George</div>
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