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<p>Hi George,</p>
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<p>The price is right for PHP/MySQL but I'm not sure if it's a solution that maps well onto the study design. The students only need to PROPOSE
<font size="3" face="TimesNewRomanPSMT"><font size="3" face="TimesNewRomanPSMT">techniques for acquiring data via websites, not apply those techniques. I think a GUI solution is more effective - unless you're a Mac school without FMP. I played with the Open
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<div style="DIRECTION: ltr" id="divRpF394862"><font color="#000000" size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] on behalf of Ciotti, George W [ciotti.george.w@edumail.vic.gov.au]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 1 December 2011 1:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Database Software<br>
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<div>I just rang up Ed Soft after Seeing Mark's message and they do not do concurrent pricing any longer.</div>
<div>They sell on volume. For example I was quoted 25 – 45(?) the price is $240AUD per user. $6k!</div>
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<div>Not great for a class of 25 unfortunately. So either Access or some other cheaper option, perhaps PHP/MySQL may be the go. Has anyone used PHP/MySQL for this outcome?</div>
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<span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From: </span>Mark KELLY <<a href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a>><br>
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<span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Date: </span>Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:41:09 +1100<br>
<span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To: </span>Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps@edulists.com.au</a>><br>
<span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: </span>Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Database Software<br>
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Hi James. I use Filemaker. I find it pretty easy to learn and use, and there's a passionate support community. Scripting can be both very powerful and simple. I use it to run our reporting system... it's load-tolerant and easily networkable (even without using
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With Filemaker Advanced you can create executable versions of the database that can be distributed and run without users having to install Filemaker itself.<br>
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Transitioning from Access will involve a few 'cultural' changes (e.g. the concept of found and omitted records, calculated fields being defined along with the other fields, layouts, portals to show related records from other tables).<br>
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It's available on the Software 4 Education program (state govt schools) for $99 per licence (and you only need to buy one licence for each concurrent user, not one licence per PC installation.)<br>
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Oh, and it now does graphs.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 1 December 2011 10:15, James Heath <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jamesaheath@yahoo.com.au" target="_blank">jamesaheath@yahoo.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><span>Require your thoughts on database software. In the past our college was PC and we have shifted to a Mac system. We have thought about dual booting machines and we could then re use our existing Access software. Is any body using Filemaker software
for IT Apps? What are the plus/minus concepts? Is it difficult to adapt etc? Thanks in anticipation for your thoughts and experiences.</span></div>
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