Try forcing the numbers to be text (put an apostophe in front of the digits) and try it again. Excel has to ask you what you really want to sort as text or as thinks that "look like numbers."<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On 15 November 2011 09:37, Esko Lossi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:elossi@chairo.vic.edu.au">elossi@chairo.vic.edu.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">When I do question 13 (Section A) on a
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold" lang="EN-US">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma" lang="EN-US">
<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Ken Tonkin<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, November 15, 2011
9:29 AM</span></font></p><div><div class="h5"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Year 12 IT Applications
Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps]
Puts down the rifle...</font></div></div><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">David, I agree with
most of your answers for the MC questions, except no.9 I think the answer
should be 9B as tactical decisions are more short term and specific.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Ken Tonkin<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Howard, David<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 15 November 2011
8:31 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Year 12 IT Applications
Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps]
Puts down the rifle...<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">I’m with Mark
on this one. Definitely A.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Validation can
ensure that I input a date of birth for example that is reasonable, say
12/08/1981 but is it accurate, no!<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Here are my multiple
choice answers.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">1 B<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">2 A<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">3 D<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">4 D<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">5 A<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">6 A<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">7 B<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">8 A<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">9 A – not so
confident on that one<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">10 A<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">11 C <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">12 C<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">13 B <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">14 B<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">15 D<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">16 C<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">17 B<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">18 B<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">19 C<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">20 C<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold" lang="EN-US">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma" lang="EN-US">
<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Mark Scott<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 15 November 2011
8:14 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Year 12 IT Applications
Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps]
Puts down the rifle...<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Validation deals with data entry.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Options B, C and D are all testing to ensure data manipulation is
correct/accurate etc.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Only option A clearly deals with data entry (i.e. the most correct
option)<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">thanks<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">Mark Scott<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">Luther College<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">"The busier you get, the slower you walk"
anon<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold" lang="EN-US">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma" lang="EN-US">
<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Michael Torsello (Mr)<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 15 November 2011
8:03 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Year 12 IT Applications
Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps]
Puts down the rifle...<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Dear
wiser colleagues<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Can
someone help me with MC question 8?<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">An
effective validation technique is evident when … all answers seem to
support the presence of an effective validation technique.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">A
– at first glance the answer but is reasonableness the best evidence of
validation?<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">B-
an accurate report suggests accurate input data, doesn’t it?<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">C-
least likely but again “reasonably”? What does that mean? If data
can be sorted is it valid?<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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–calculated files gives correct answers! Is this evidence of GIGO –
not garbage in, garbage out, but good in, good out?<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">I’m
confused!<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Ben Hines<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Howard, David<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, 14 November 2011
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">A
– Scope see page 17 of the study design.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Ben Hines<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, 14 November 2011
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">I
cannot believe that number question. No one would normally type numbers in as
numerals, set the data type to text and then order from A -> Z.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">I
doubt anyone would get the answer to that unless they have accidentally done it
in the past. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Because
you have entered them as text, the sort will only look at the left most number
to order them (just like with normal ones).<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Answer
according to Access is B….<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D">Question
5 in the Multiple Choice? What’s the consensus on that one?<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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52411577 (ext. 212)</span></font><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Howard, David<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, 14 November 2011
2:15 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Year 12 IT Applications
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps]
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don’t have the paper in front of me, but after a quick chat to my
students, plain to see that they had differing opinions on the sorting of
numbers as text question in the multiple choice.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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not marking this year by the way.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, 14 November 2011
1:52 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Year 12 IT Applications
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts
down the rifle...<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I'm reading the paper
now. <br>
<br>
Section A looks pretty free of rabies.<br>
<br>
I have put the gun down after reading the normalisation question... Thank
Dog sanity prevailed on that one!<br>
<br>
Damn that ERD question - three marks and they had to draw an entire diagram
from scratch! Grrr.<br>
<br>
The 8 mark question appeared, as we expected. And it was approachable.<br>
<br>
Overall, I think I might give the dog a bone.<br>
<br clear="all">
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-- <br>
Mark Kelly<br>
Manager of ICT, Reporting, IT Learning Area<br>
McKinnon Secondary College<br>
McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia<br>
Direct line / Voicemail: <a href="tel:%2B613%208520%209085" value="+61385209085" target="_blank">+613 8520 9085</a>, Fax <a href="tel:%2B613%209578%209253" value="+61395789253" target="_blank">+613 9578 9253</a><br>
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Want a good time? Call 0112358. Ask for Mr Fibonacci.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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