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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Am marking this year - but have not yet seen the
paper as I am not teaching at the moment. M/C section so we won't be
marking it anyway :-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>There are numbers that we need to treat as text. Eg
phone numbers - else the leading zero is not stored. So once that is done,
you do need to sort on an A ->Z basis.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Look forward to seeing the actual question when I
get access to a copy of the paper online.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Robert Hind (Semi-retired) OOF, GOM (Thanks
Kent!)<BR>Ashwood and Traralgon<BR><A
href="mailto:robert@yinnar.com">robert@yinnar.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=b.hines@ccg.vic.edu.au href="mailto:b.hines@ccg.vic.edu.au">Ben
Hines</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=itapps@edulists.com.au
href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing
List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 14, 2011 2:36
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down
the rifle...</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I
cannot believe that number question. No one would normally type numbers in as
numerals, set the data type to text and then order from A ->
Z.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I
doubt anyone would get the answer to that unless they have accidentally done
it in the past. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Because
you have entered them as text, the sort will only look at the left most number
to order them (just like with normal ones).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Answer
according to Access is B….<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Question
5 in the Multiple Choice? What’s the consensus on that
one?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Mr Ben
Hines<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">VCE Maths/ICT
Teacher<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><I><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Senior School
Campus - Christian College Geelong<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; COLOR: #1f497d">(</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">(03) 52411577
(ext. 212)</SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US>
itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Howard, David<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 14 November 2011 2:15
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing
List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the
rifle...<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I
don’t have the paper in front of me, but after a quick chat to my students,
plain to see that they had differing opinions on the sorting of numbers as
text question in the multiple choice.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I’m
not marking this year by the way.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US> <A
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>
<A
href="mailto:[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]">[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]</A>
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Mark KELLY<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 14 November 2011 1:52
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing
List<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Year 12 IT Apps] Puts down the
rifle...<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>I'm reading the paper now. <BR><BR>Section A looks pretty
free of rabies.<BR><BR>I have put the gun down after reading the normalisation
question... Thank Dog sanity prevailed on that one!<BR><BR>Damn that ERD
question - three marks and they had to draw an entire diagram from
scratch! Grrr.<BR><BR>The 8 mark question appeared, as we
expected. And it was approachable.<BR><BR>Overall, I think I might give
the dog a bone.<BR><BR clear=all><BR>-- <BR>Mark Kelly<BR>Manager of ICT,
Reporting, IT Learning Area<BR>McKinnon Secondary College<BR>McKinnon Rd
McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia<BR>Direct line / Voicemail: +613 8520 9085,
Fax +613 9578 9253<BR><A href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au"
target=_blank>kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</A><BR>VCE IT Lecture Notes: <A
href="http://vceit.com" target=_blank>http://vceit.com</A><BR>Moderator: <A
href="http://www.edulists.com.au/" target=_blank>IT Applications
Edulist</A><BR><BR>Want a good time? Call 0112358. Ask for Mr
Fibonacci.<o:p></o:p></P>
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