<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
<meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)">
<style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
        {font-family:Wingdings;
        panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;}
@font-face
        {font-family:Wingdings;
        panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;}
@font-face
        {font-family:Calibri;
        panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
        {font-family:Tahoma;
        panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
        {margin:0cm;
        margin-bottom:.0001pt;
        font-size:12.0pt;
        font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
        {mso-style-priority:99;
        color:blue;
        text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
        {mso-style-priority:99;
        color:purple;
        text-decoration:underline;}
p.MsoAcetate, li.MsoAcetate, div.MsoAcetate
        {mso-style-priority:99;
        mso-style-link:"Balloon Text Char";
        margin:0cm;
        margin-bottom:.0001pt;
        font-size:8.0pt;
        font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";}
span.EmailStyle17
        {mso-style-type:personal-reply;
        font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
        color:#1F497D;}
span.BalloonTextChar
        {mso-style-name:"Balloon Text Char";
        mso-style-priority:99;
        mso-style-link:"Balloon Text";
        font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
        mso-fareast-language:EN-AU;}
.MsoChpDefault
        {mso-style-type:export-only;
        font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
        mso-fareast-language:EN-US;}
@page WordSection1
        {size:612.0pt 792.0pt;
        margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}
div.WordSection1
        {page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>
<body lang="EN-AU" link="blue" vlink="purple">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">All<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">But those kids that have not done ICT y7-10 would have still learned all the skills necessary from their English/maths/LOTE/etc teachers.
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> or that’s what I keep being told!!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">B<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 20 October 2011 10:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] No ITA at McKinnon in 2012<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Since there's no prerequisite for ITA or SD, we regularly got kids enrolling even if they didn't do IT since year 7... and that is a challenge to get them up to speed!
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 20 October 2011 10:05, Paul Golub <<a href="mailto:golupau@santamaria.vic.edu.au">golupau@santamaria.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Mark,<br>
<br>
we've never run SD here always ITA.<br>
Next year there is NO ITA as we didn't run Units 1 and 2 this year.<br>
First time ever, that I can remember, there will be no Year 12 IT of any kind.<br>
<br>
We will be running Units 1 and 2 next year. Roughly 16 students.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Paul Golub<br>
Santa Maria College<br>
50 Separation Street<br>
Northcote 3070<br>
Ph: 9488 1674<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original message-----<br>
From: Mark KELLY <a href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a><br>
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:30:10 +1100<br>
To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List" <a href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">
itapps@edulists.com.au</a>, "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List"<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a><br>
Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] No ITA at McKinnon in 2012<br>
<br>
Hi all.<br>
<br>
As I feared, ITA didn't get enough enrolments to run in 2012 - for the first<br>
time in about 15 years.<br>
<br>
Strangely enough, Software Development *is* running - and before this year<br>
it hasn't run for 3 years.<br>
<br>
Actually, I'm kind of relieved since SD is more interesting anyway, and ITA<br>
seems old, dry and tired. Perhaps it's just because I've been teaching it<br>
since forever, or it may be that the new study design is partly to blame -<br>
and yes! normal forms, I AM looking at you. And I'd also put some blame on<br>
the freakishly large and long U4O1 - my kids were exhausted at the end of<br>
that.<br>
<br>
After a hiatus this year, Units 1&2 return to McKinnon in 2012, and since I<br>
have barely looked at them it will be another fun year compiling resources<br>
for those units.<br>
If the ITA embargo continues and SD continues to run, I may craft units 1&2<br>
to be heavy on programming to better funnel kids into SD in the following<br>
year.<br>
<br>
Do you guys know what units will run at your places next year?<br>
<br>
--<br>
Mark Kelly<br>
Manager of ICT, Reporting, IT Learning Area<br>
McKinnon Secondary College<br>
McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia<br>
Direct line / Voicemail: <a href="tel:%2B613%208520%209085">+613 8520 9085</a>, Fax
<a href="tel:%2B613%209578%209253">+613 9578 9253</a><br>
<a href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a><br>
VCE IT Lecture Notes: <a href="http://vceit.com" target="_blank">http://vceit.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Moderator: IT Applications Edulist <<a href="http://www.edulists.com.au/" target="_blank">http://www.edulists.com.au/</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
Want a good time? Call 0112358. Ask for Mr Fibonacci.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">_____________________________________________________________________________<br>
This email and any attachments may be confidential. You must not disclose<br>
or use the information in this email if you are not the intended recipient.<br>
If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately and<br>
delete the email and all copies. The College does not guarantee that this<br>
email is virus or error free. The attached files are provided and may only<br>
be used on the basis that the user assumes all responsibility for any loss,<br>
damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from the use of the<br>
attached files, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not.. The<br>
content and opinions in this email are not necessarily those of the College<br>
____________________________________________________________________________<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
<a href="http://www.edulists.com.au" target="_blank">http://www.edulists.com.au</a> - FAQ, resources, subscribe, unsubscribe<br>
IT Applications Mailing List kindly supported by<br>
<a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/itapplications3-4.html" target="_blank">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/itapplications3-4.html</a> - Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority and<br>
<a href="http://www.vitta.org.au" target="_blank">http://www.vitta.org.au</a> - VITTA Victorian Information Technology Teachers Association Inc<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
<br clear="all">
<br>
-- <br>
Mark Kelly<br>
Manager of ICT, Reporting, IT Learning Area<br>
McKinnon Secondary College<br>
McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia<br>
Direct line / Voicemail: +613 8520 9085, Fax +613 9578 9253<br>
<a href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a><br>
VCE IT Lecture Notes: <a href="http://vceit.com" target="_blank">http://vceit.com</a><br>
Moderator: <a href="http://www.edulists.com.au/" target="_blank">IT Applications Edulist</a><br>
<br>
Want a good time? Call 0112358. Ask for Mr Fibonacci.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</body>
</html>
<html><head></head><body><br><br>Scanned by Sonar. <br>Date: 2011-10-20 10:51:19.15<br>From: bhancock@nagle.vic.edu.au<br>To: itapps@edulists.com.au<br>Profile: default_out<br>Mail id: challenge-9068278546559-0
<br><br></body></html>