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Hi All.<BR>
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I totally agree with Mark. My kids would also just write up a Word document and save it as a PDF. As such, I'm steering them towards using Powerpoint, although I would've liked them to be more adventurous! Unfortunately, our students, by and large, always go for the least effort!<BR>
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Heike Demarteau<BR>
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ICT Coordinator<BR>
KooWeeRup Secondary College<BR> <BR>
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From: kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au<BR>Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:08:47 +1000<BR>To: itapps@edulists.com.au<BR>Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] ITA U4O1 task 1 weighting<BR><BR>Hi all. The study design says that "To support the ongoing use of these solutions, students produce user documentation using either web authoring or multimedia authoring software."<BR><BR>I think most of us would agree on what "web authoring" software would be - Dreamweaver, Drupal/Moodle etc (but do we include Notepad if it's used to create PHP/AJAX/CSS/HTML5 pages?).<BR><BR>We just need to argue over whether PDF is "multimedia authoring software". I'd say not. I'd say its prime function is <B>not</B> the creation of multimedia. <BR><BR>I'd say Powerpoint and Flash <B>are</B> specifically designed as multimedia authoring tools.<BR><BR>2.15c worth (assuming a GST rise to pay for the carbon tax)<BR><BR>Come out lurkers. What do you think?<BR><BR>Mark<BR><BR>
<DIV class=ecxgmail_quote>On 25 July 2011 14:23, Andrew Shortell <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:shortell@get2me.net">shortell@get2me.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Hey Mark<BR>At a personal level I do not believe a single PDF is adequate if it is merely a print document such as a text document (NOT necessarily a word doc from microsloth (attribution to Mike B))<BR><BR>However I believe that as part of doing the preparation for creating User Documentation that we create a specification set / design brief. This brief contains all the things that will help them to achieve high in each criteria on the marking scheme.<BR><BR>Thus they know exactly what they need to put in and so the students who are interested in attaining good results put it in.<BR>I consider it no reflection upon myself if they deliberately choose not to put in things that we have discussed and added to the specifications of which they have a copy. !!<BR><BR>Interactivity is important for user doc; searchability; and lots of other things. Given that you are marking the sacs you need to set the specs. If the students know the specs then they have the best chance of meeting them!<BR><BR>(I think I am missing teaching vce!! And the intellectual challenges therein! As I sit in a year 7 art class.)<BR><FONT color=#888888><BR>Andrew</FONT>
<DIV class=ecxim><BR><BR><BR>On 25/07/11 1:30 PM, "Mark KELLY" <<A href="http://mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au/" target=_blank>kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV></SPAN></FONT>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Hi Andrew. While I acknowledge that PDF has one or two distinctively onscreen features, it lacks most of them. If I let my kids use PDF as a format, they'd type up a normal Word document and just save it as PDF without exploiting the features they were meant to use.<BR><BR>On 25 July 2011 10:22, Andrew Shortell <<A href="http://get2me.net/" target=_blank>shortell@get2me.net</A>> wrote:<BR></SPAN></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Hi John and Mark<BR><BR>PDF is no longer merely meant to be printed. It is a simple way to keep everything looking like you meant it to look.<BR><BR>PDF docs can contain links etc so they are not merely printed pages<BR><BR>A lot of user doc that one receives nowadays comes as pdf. 100s of pages of it. When was the last time that you printed a pdf manual????????<BR><BR>E.g. Last night I installed a big pond usb modem for a “Senior” couple. The suer doc was a series of pdfs. Telstra is moderately up to date with things......<BR><BR>Back off my soap box and on to teaching and learning<BR><BR>Andrew<BR></SPAN></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><BR>-- <BR>-- <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT size=4><FONT face="Apple Casual"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Andrew Shortell<BR></SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><BR><A href="mailto:shortell@get2me.net">mailto:shortell@get2me.net</A> <BR>Heidelberg Teaching Unit<BR>Ph 9470 3403<BR>Fax 9470 3215<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV><BR>_______________________________________________<BR><A href="http://www.edulists.com.au/" target=_blank>http://www.edulists.com.au</A> - FAQ, resources, subscribe, unsubscribe<BR>IT Applications Mailing List kindly supported by<BR><A href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/itapplications3-4.html" target=_blank>http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/itapplications3-4.html</A> - Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority and<BR><A href="http://www.vitta.org.au/" target=_blank>http://www.vitta.org.au</A> - VITTA Victorian Information Technology Teachers Association Inc<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR clear=all><BR>-- <BR>Mark Kelly<BR>Manager of ICT, Reporting, IT Learning Area<BR>McKinnon Secondary College<BR>McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia<BR>Direct line / Voicemail: +613 8520 9085, Fax +613 9578 9253<BR><A href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</A><BR>VCE IT Lecture Notes: <A href="http://vceit.com/" target=_blank>http://vceit.com</A><BR>Moderator: <A href="http://www.edulists.com.au/" target=_blank>IT Applications Edulist</A><BR><BR>Want a good time? Call 0112358. Ask for Mr Fibonacci.<BR><BR>_______________________________________________ http://www.edulists.com.au - FAQ, resources, subscribe, unsubscribe IT Applications Mailing List kindly supported by http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/itapplications3-4.html - Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority and http://www.vitta.org.au - VITTA Victorian Information Technology Teachers Association Inc</DIV> </div></body>
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