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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>oh no!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>so who don't they laugh at?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>{:-|</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au
href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au">Mark KELLY</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=itapps@edulists.com.au
href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 28, 2011 11:15
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] (no
subject)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>People might laugh at Access users, but think of us Filemaker
users.<BR><BR>In the street, dogs laugh at us, children bite us, and
accountants poke us with sticks :-(<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On 27 May 2011 19:51, Jenny Gielb <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:Tafe@imaginethis.biz">Tafe@imaginethis.biz</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hi,<BR>A
lot of IT people laugh at MS Access, they view it as puny and
inconsequential. As someone who has made quite a bit of money out of
developing MS Access databases for many different businesses, I laugh at
them.<BR>It is not as secure or reliable as SQL or MYSQL, or as relevant in
terms of internet development but it is a very powerful tool. It has the
benefit of being already available to anyone with Office, it has a fantastic
GUI interface which PHP, .NET, VB, Crystal Reports and SQL do not have. It
also has everything in the one package, which none of the others have. It is
basically the best available software to train anyone in databases and
system development. Once a student understands the concepts of database
design, VBA code and front-end screen development, they can easily pick up
any other database tool.<BR>I agree, it would be more beneficial to teach
the students web-based coding and databases, but that is very complex, is
changing constantly, and there is so many choices there that you can't
decide what to use.<BR>I think teaching them the basics of databases and
websites is more important, they can take it further if they want
later.<BR><BR>As an Access developer I have never ever, and wouldn't ever
use drop-down boxes on tables. Drop-down boxes are for forms and data entry.
Don't confuse the issue. Tables are for storing data, forms are for entering
and displaying, reports are for displaying data. You have to set up basic
forms for data entry anyway.<BR><FONT color=#888888>Jenny<BR><BR></FONT><BR
clear=all></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>-- <BR>Mark Kelly<BR>Manager of ICT,
Reporting, IT Learning Area<BR>McKinnon Secondary College<BR>McKinnon Rd
McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia<BR>Direct line / Voicemail: +613 8520 9085,
Fax +613 9578 9253<BR><A href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au"
target=_blank>kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</A><BR>VCE IT Lecture Notes: <A
href="http://vceit.com" target=_blank>http://vceit.com</A><BR>Moderator: IT
Applications Edulist<BR><BR><FONT size=+0>Want a good time? Call 0112358. Ask
for Mr </FONT>Fibonacci.<BR>
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