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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Hopefully we will find that the mistake was corrected but just didn’t make it onto this copy of the examiner’s report.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Hopefully<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I would be amazed if none of the markers picked it up as an error.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Mark Scott<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Luther College<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Shortell<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 20 May 2011 8:59 AM<br><b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] 2010 ITA examiners' report<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hi Mark and others (and aware that Paula and Claudia will read this too!!)<br><br>Those of you who have marked exams (as I have for over twenty years) will know that this comment is just NOT ON. (all caps deliberate)<br>There is vigorous and Robust (remember IPM) debate between markers about what is correct, what is acceptable and what we should accept. <br>If you really are worried about what the exam marking people actually do then you should apply to mark exams and actually do 300-400 in ten days.<br><br>I feel that this comment is JUST NOT ON.<br><br>Andrew<br><br>-- <br></span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Apple Casual","serif"'>Andrew Shortell<br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br><a href="mailto:shortell@get2me.net">mailto:shortell@get2me.net</a> <br>Heidelberg Teaching Unit<br>Ph 9470 3403<br>Fax 9470 3215<br><br><br>On 20/05/11 8:39 AM, "Mark KELLY" <<a href="kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hi Frank. Yes, question 5a about the critical path is fine. In fact it didn't depend on the Gantt chart at all. <br><br>It's the 4 marks for the Gantt chart in Q5b that kids may have lost. I don't know how many marks were lost if my kids started task B in day 1 and correctly added dependency arrows to D and E from the dummy task (as they probably probably would have done).<br><br>It's easy enough to find mistakes in the questions asked in an exam; the problem is that if the markers' <i>solution</i> is wrong, we can't find out until the assessment report is released and it's far too late to do any good.<br><br>On 19 May 2011 17:29, Russo, Frank R <<a href="Russo.Frank.R@edumail.vic.gov.au">Russo.Frank.R@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Hi Mark<br>Technically the only problem with the Gant chart is that Task B and A would have begun @ the same time but then there would have been 3 days slack time while A and then C were completed so the answers would still be correct even though the chart has errors.<br> <br>Yet another awesome question from the Examiners well almost?<br> <br>Frank<br> <br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br></span><b><i><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'>Frank Russo<br></span></i></b><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'>Leading Teacher - Timetabling & Daily Organiser<br>Monterey Secondary College<br>Frankston North, 3200<br>Phone: 9781-7700<br></span></i></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 19 May 2011 12:09 PM<br><b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 IT Apps] 2010 ITA examiners' report<br></span> <br><b>From the 2010 ITA Exam - Question 5B. </b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> I have a belated complaint now that I've seen the examiner's official answer in the assessment report <<a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/studies/infotech/it-applications/assessreports/2010/itapps_assessrep_10.pdf">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/studies/infotech/it-applications/assessreports/2010/itapps_assessrep_10.pdf</a>> .<br><br><br><br>Can someone please point out if I'm wrong, but I think they've badly messed up the answer, and kids will have unfairly lost up to 4 marks.<br><br>>From the PERT chart ...<br><br><br>They asked for a corresponding Gantt chart. Their solution was this:<br><br><br><br>It's obvious in the PERT that tasks A and B are <b>concurrent</b>. <b>B is not dependent on A</b>! <br>Yet in their Gantt, they've clearly shown task B as being dependent on A.<br>Then, they went on to leave out fact that that tasks E and D were also dependent on task B through the dummy task.<br><br>I hate to think that my kids lost marks because of these errors by the examiners. <br>It's too late to re-mark exams, but it really makes me worry that markers can be given such dodgy official answers when grading papers.<br><br></span><b><span style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Grrrrr!</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br></span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>-- </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>