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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Paula,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Could you arrange for the Chief Examiner to comment
through you? Perhaps there has been a "typo" in producing the Examiners' Report.
Perhaps a mistake was made originally.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>But it should be cleared up.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Robert Hind (Semi-retired) OOF, GOM<BR>Ashwood and
Traralgon<BR><A
href="mailto:robert@yinnar.com">robert@yinnar.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=christophersen.paula.p@edumail.vic.gov.au
href="mailto:christophersen.paula.p@edumail.vic.gov.au">Christophersen, Paula
P</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=itapps@edulists.com.au
href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing
List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 19, 2011 1:42
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] 2010 ITA
examiners' report</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Dear Mark and
colleagues<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">All assessors are
required not to discuss any matters dealing with the marking of the papers –
this applies to every study.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Regards<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Paula<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Paula
Christophersen</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">ICT Curriculum
Manager</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">VCAA</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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Place</SPAN></FONT></st1:address></st1:Street><FONT color=navy><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">EAST
MELBOURNE</SPAN></FONT></st1:place><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
3002</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">(03) 9651
4378</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"
lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US> <A
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>
[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Mark Scott<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, 19 May 2011 1:02
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing
List</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] 2010 ITA
examiners' report</SPAN></FONT><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Cab anybody who marked the VCAA papers confirm that
this was indeed the answer that they were supplied with to mark the
papers?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Pls reply to Mark K or myself (and not to the whole
group) and we will keep your identity anonymous. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Mark Scott<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on"><FONT size=2
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Luther</SPAN></FONT></st1:PlaceName><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceName></SPAN></FONT></st1:place><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold"
lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US>
itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Mark
KELLY<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, 19 May
2011 12:09 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing
List</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Year 12 IT Apps] 2010 ITA
examiners' report<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt" class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From
the 2010 ITA Exam - Question 5B. </SPAN></FONT></B> I have a belated
complaint now that I've seen the examiner's official answer in the <A
href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/studies/infotech/it-applications/assessreports/2010/itapps_assessrep_10.pdf">assessment
report</A>.<BR><BR>Can someone please point out if I'm wrong, but I think
they've badly messed up the answer, and kids will have unfairly lost up to 4
marks.<BR><BR>>From the PERT chart ...<BR><IMG id=_x0000_i1025 border=0
alt=b5.jpg src="cid:137C9EA87A834E49AC0699856E7ABCBD@RobertPC" width=541
height=245><BR><BR>They asked for a corresponding Gantt chart. Their solution
was this:<BR><BR><IMG id=_x0000_i1026 border=0 alt=assrep-gantt-solution.gif
src="cid:F23D648B0D034708ACD58B6083DB4CB0@RobertPC" width=504 height=157><BR
clear=all><BR>It's obvious in the PERT that tasks A and B are <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">concurrent</SPAN></B>. <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">B is not dependent on A</SPAN></B>! <BR>Yet in
their Gantt, they've clearly shown task B as being dependent on A.<BR>Then,
they went on to leave out fact that that tasks E and D were also dependent on
task B through the dummy task.<BR><BR>I hate to think that my kids lost marks
because of these errors by the examiners. <BR>It's too late to re-mark exams,
but it really makes me worry that markers can be given such dodgy official
answers when grading papers.<BR><BR><B><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Grrrrr!<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT></B><BR>--
<BR>Mark Kelly<BR>Manager of ICT, Reporting, IT Learning Area<BR><st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">McKinnon</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Secondary</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><BR><st1:Street
w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">McKinnon Rd</st1:address></st1:Street>
McKinnon 3204, <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Victoria</st1:City>,
<st1:country-region
w:st="on">Australia</st1:country-region></st1:place><BR>Direct line /
Voicemail: +613 8520 9085, Fax +613 9578 9253<BR><A
href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au"
target=_blank>kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</A><BR>VCE IT Lecture Notes: <A
href="http://vceit.com" target=_blank>http://vceit.com</A><BR>Moderator: IT
Applications Edulist<BR><BR>Want a good time? Call 0112358. Ask for Mr
Fibonacci.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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