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Thanks Bill<br>
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On 08/10/10 15:36, Bill Turner wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Free
Open Source Software (FOSS)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"
lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kent
Beveridge<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 8 October 2010 3:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Free software<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: black;">Brett
mate, ....what is FOSS?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="background: white none repeat scroll 0% 0%; font-family: "Lucida Calligraphy"; color: blue; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">Kent
Beveridge</span><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">ICT
Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.</span><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: black;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: black;">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] on
behalf of
Brett Groves [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:groves.brett.g@edumail.vic.gov.au">groves.brett.g@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 7 October 2010 2:25 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Free software</span><span
style="color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Question is Kent why
then are you
still using proprietary software? <br>
<br>
In my experience FOSS is often more robust and functional and is of
course....free.<br>
<br>
Leave Bill and Steve and come to the light Kent..lol<br>
<br>
Brett Groves<br>
ICT Manager<br>
Croydon Secondary College<br>
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<br>
On 06/10/10 22:26, Kent Beveridge wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Unfortunately, seems
us in the
Catholic system miss out on the freebies..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Just contacted my
techie who
informed me that we paid a (insert large $figure here) sum for our
recent
software licenses. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Ah, well, cant have
everything I
guess.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Still, we do try
hard to maintain
the highest quality of product delivery that we can and pride ourselves
in
that fact. As too, I am sure we all do (or should!).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">cheers, and seeya at
he upcoming
conference kiddies..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">come to my and AJ's
panel session
and have an input to improve our service to county clients...or just to
say
gday!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Kent.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">(my vegie patch is
now doin well
...YAY!).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Lucida Calligraphy"; color: blue;">Kent
Beveridge</span><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">ICT
Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.</span><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: black;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: black;">
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au"
target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au"
target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
on behalf of Roland Gesthuizen [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rgesthuizen@gmail.com" target="_blank">rgesthuizen@gmail.com</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 6 October 2010 4:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Free software</span><span
style="color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span
style="color: black;">It
will save schools spending thousands. The reality is that there is no
free
lunch, the tax payer still pays. I guess that we should be mindful and
respectful of this. Statewide software purchases could just as easily
work by
tagging the grants and allowing local users to choose. <br>
<br>
Please, I don't want to rain on the party but I am forever suspicious
of when
peter may be pinched to pay for paul. The economics of supply and
demand is
quirky with software. Double the sales does not really double the
supply costs.
It is more about market share and placement, a battleground that should
never
eclipse good teaching and great schooling.<br>
<br>
Regards Roland<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">On Wed, Oct 6, 2010
at 9:48 AM,
Mark KELLY <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span
style="color: black;">But
the new image will contain Adobe CS5! That's the nifty bit; it will
save
us thousands.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">On 6 October 2010
09:24, Mann,
Warrick D <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Mann.Warrick.D@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank">Mann.Warrick.D@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;">I believe
we edit the edustar image to get what we want out
of it add drivers etc and add Adobe CS3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;">Warrick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><b><span style="color: black;">From:</span></b><span
style="color: black;"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
[mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Hutchison, Geoffrey G<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 6 October 2010 12:07 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;"><br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: black;">Subject:</span></b><span
style="color: black;"> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Free software <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;">Not so
great. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;">Our
experience is that the eduSTAR image is only good for
Lenovo laptops. Installing on other machines, notebook or desktop, has
resulted
in configuration problems = unstable.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;">We
continue to build our own images; I have yet to find a
DEECD image that is acceptable/stable/functional.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;">Doubt it
will change. L<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;">cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;">Geoff
Hutchison,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;">IT
Manager/Coordinator,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;">McGuire
College,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;">Shepparton,
Vic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><b><span style="color: black;">From:</span></b><span
style="color: black;"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
[mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 4 October 2010 3:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Free software<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;">My techie
discovered this interesting link<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.doe.wan/index.php/Purchasing_Software_for_Schools"
target="_blank">http://wiki.doe.wan/index.php/Purchasing_Software_for_Schools</a><br>
<br>
which says DEECD schools will be getting Adobe CS5 for free soon on the
Edustar
Win7 version 3a image.<br>
<br>
Goodo!<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Mark Kelly<br>
Information Systems Manager; Reporting Manager<br>
McKinnon Secondary College<br>
McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia<br>
Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085<br>
School Phone +613 8520 9000, Fax +613 9578 9253<br>
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For no reason, my friend became a square, flat surface with four legs.
I rushed
him to hospital. His condition is table.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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