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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Free Open Source Software (FOSS)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kent Beveridge<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 8 October 2010 3:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Free software<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Brett mate, ....what is FOSS?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:blue;
background:white'>Kent Beveridge</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#3366FF'>ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>
itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] on behalf of
Brett Groves [groves.brett.g@edumail.vic.gov.au]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 7 October 2010 2:25 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Free software</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Question is Kent why then are you
still using proprietary software? <br>
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In my experience FOSS is often more robust and functional and is of
course....free.<br>
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Leave Bill and Steve and come to the light Kent..lol<br>
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Brett Groves<br>
ICT Manager<br>
Croydon Secondary College<br>
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On 06/10/10 22:26, Kent Beveridge wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Unfortunately, seems us in the
Catholic system miss out on the freebies..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Just contacted my techie who
informed me that we paid a (insert large $figure here) sum for our recent
software licenses. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Ah, well, cant have everything I
guess.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Still, we do try hard to maintain
the highest quality of product delivery that we can and pride ourselves in
that fact. As too, I am sure we all do (or should!).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>cheers, and seeya at he upcoming
conference kiddies..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>come to my and AJ's panel session
and have an input to improve our service to county clients...or just to say
gday!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Kent.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>(my vegie patch is now doin well
...YAY!).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:blue'>Kent
Beveridge</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#3366FF'>ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
[<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
on behalf of Roland Gesthuizen [<a href="mailto:rgesthuizen@gmail.com"
target="_blank">rgesthuizen@gmail.com</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 6 October 2010 4:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Free software</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'>It
will save schools spending thousands. The reality is that there is no free
lunch, the tax payer still pays. I guess that we should be mindful and
respectful of this. Statewide software purchases could just as easily work by
tagging the grants and allowing local users to choose. <br>
<br>
Please, I don't want to rain on the party but I am forever suspicious of when
peter may be pinched to pay for paul. The economics of supply and demand is
quirky with software. Double the sales does not really double the supply costs.
It is more about market share and placement, a battleground that should never
eclipse good teaching and great schooling.<br>
<br>
Regards Roland<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:48 AM,
Mark KELLY <<a href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'>But
the new image will contain Adobe CS5! That's the nifty bit; it will save
us thousands.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On 6 October 2010 09:24, Mann,
Warrick D <<a href="mailto:Mann.Warrick.D@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank">Mann.Warrick.D@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>I believe we edit the edustar image to get what we want out
of it add drivers etc and add Adobe CS3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>Warrick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> <a
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Hutchison, Geoffrey G<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 6 October 2010 12:07 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>Subject:</span></b><span
style='color:black'> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Free software <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>Not so great. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>Our experience is that the eduSTAR image is only good for
Lenovo laptops. Installing on other machines, notebook or desktop, has resulted
in configuration problems = unstable.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>We continue to build our own images; I have yet to find a
DEECD image that is acceptable/stable/functional.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>Doubt it will change. L<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>Geoff Hutchison,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>IT Manager/Coordinator,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>McGuire College,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>Shepparton, Vic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> <a
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 4 October 2010 3:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Free software<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>My techie discovered this interesting link<br>
<br>
<a href="http://wiki.doe.wan/index.php/Purchasing_Software_for_Schools"
target="_blank">http://wiki.doe.wan/index.php/Purchasing_Software_for_Schools</a><br>
<br>
which says DEECD schools will be getting Adobe CS5 for free soon on the Edustar
Win7 version 3a image.<br>
<br>
Goodo!<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Mark Kelly<br>
Information Systems Manager; Reporting Manager<br>
McKinnon Secondary College<br>
McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia<br>
Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085<br>
School Phone +613 8520 9000, Fax +613 9578 9253<br>
<a href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a><br>
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