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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Gotta say Kent: “why are you being informed by your tech”?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Why don’t you know already?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Way too many schools are being controlled by “the tech”.
IT techs should be responding to school/staff/student needs, not deciding or
setting parameters for the school.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The tail does not (or should not) wag the dog.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Geoff Hutchison,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>IT Manager/Coordinator,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>McGuire College,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Shepparton, Vic</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kent Beveridge<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 6 October 2010 10:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Free software<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Unfortunately, seems us in the Catholic system miss out on the
freebies..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Just contacted my techie who informed me that we paid a (insert
large $figure here) sum for our recent software licenses. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Ah, well, cant have everything I guess.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Still, we do try hard to maintain the highest quality of
product delivery that we can and pride ourselves in that fact. As too, I am
sure we all do (or should!).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'>cheers, and seeya at he upcoming conference kiddies..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'>come to my and AJ's panel session and have an input to improve our
service to county clients...or just to say gday!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'>Kent.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>(my vegie patch is now doin well ...YAY!).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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background:white'>Kent Beveridge</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#3366FF'>ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>
itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] on behalf of
Roland Gesthuizen [rgesthuizen@gmail.com]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 6 October 2010 4:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Free software</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'>It
will save schools spending thousands. The reality is that there is no free
lunch, the tax payer still pays. I guess that we should be mindful and
respectful of this. Statewide software purchases could just as easily work by
tagging the grants and allowing local users to choose. <br>
<br>
Please, I don't want to rain on the party but I am forever suspicious of when
peter may be pinched to pay for paul. The economics of supply and demand is
quirky with software. Double the sales does not really double the supply costs.
It is more about market share and placement, a battleground that should never
eclipse good teaching and great schooling.<br>
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Regards Roland<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:48 AM,
Mark KELLY <<a href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'>But
the new image will contain Adobe CS5! That's the nifty bit; it will save
us thousands.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On 6 October 2010 09:24, Mann,
Warrick D <<a href="mailto:Mann.Warrick.D@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank">Mann.Warrick.D@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'>I believe we edit the edustar image to get what
we want out of it add drivers etc and add Adobe CS3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'>Warrick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-AU
style='color:black'> <a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au"
target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Hutchison, Geoffrey G<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 6 October 2010 12:07 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='color:black'><br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-AU style='color:black'>Subject:</span></b><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Free software <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'>Not so great. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'>Our experience is that the eduSTAR image is only
good for Lenovo laptops. Installing on other machines, notebook or desktop, has
resulted in configuration problems = unstable.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'>We continue to build our own images; I have yet
to find a DEECD image that is acceptable/stable/functional.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'>Doubt it will change. L<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'>cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'>Geoff Hutchison,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'>IT Manager/Coordinator,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'>McGuire College,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'>Shepparton, Vic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-AU style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-AU
style='color:black'> <a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au"
target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 4 October 2010 3:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 IT Apps] [OT] Free software<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU style='color:black'>My techie discovered this interesting link<br>
<br>
<a href="http://wiki.doe.wan/index.php/Purchasing_Software_for_Schools"
target="_blank">http://wiki.doe.wan/index.php/Purchasing_Software_for_Schools</a><br>
<br>
which says DEECD schools will be getting Adobe CS5 for free soon on the Edustar
Win7 version 3a image.<br>
<br>
Goodo!<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Mark Kelly<br>
Information Systems Manager; Reporting Manager<br>
McKinnon Secondary College<br>
McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia<br>
Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085<br>
School Phone +613 8520 9000, Fax +613 9578 9253<br>
<a href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a><br>
VCE IT Lecture notes: <a href="http://vceit.com" target="_blank">http://vceit.com</a><br>
Moderator: IT Applications Mailing List<br>
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For no reason, my friend became a square, flat surface with four legs. I rushed
him to hospital. His condition is table.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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-- <br>
Mark Kelly<br>
Information Systems Manager; Reporting Manager<br>
McKinnon Secondary College<br>
McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia<br>
Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085<br>
School Phone +613 8520 9000, Fax +613 9578 9253<br>
<a href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a><br>
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Moderator: IT Applications Mailing List<br>
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For no reason, my friend became a square, flat surface with four legs. I rushed
him to hospital. His condition is table.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Roland Gesthuizen - ICT Coordinator - Westall Secondary College<br>
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