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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>So you are saying what I have understood for
years</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>NO dictionaries at all for ESL students in ITA (or
Physics, Chemistry, Maths, etc)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Robert Hind (Semi-retired) OOF, GOM (Thanks
Kent!)<BR>Ashwood and Traralgon<BR><A
href="mailto:robert@yinnar.com">robert@yinnar.com</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=timmer@melbpc.org.au
href="mailto:timmer@melbpc.org.au">Timmer-Arends</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=itapps@edulists.com.au
href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing
List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 05, 2010 6:38
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] ESL
students and the exam</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hello all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>be careful about what you tell students. Contrast
this <A
href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/exams/examcovers/Oct_Nov_2010/2010engESL-cov.pdf">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/exams/examcovers/Oct_Nov_2010/2010engESL-cov.pdf</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>or this <A
href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/exams/examcovers/Oct_Nov_2010/2010eng-cov.pdf">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/exams/examcovers/Oct_Nov_2010/2010eng-cov.pdf</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>with this <A
href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/exams/examcovers/Oct_Nov_2010/2010itapps-cov.pdf">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vcaa/vce/exams/examcovers/Oct_Nov_2010/2010itapps-cov.pdf</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Robert T-A</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Brighton SC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=shortell@get2me.net href="mailto:shortell@get2me.net">Andrew
Shortell</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=itapps@edulists.com.au
href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">Year 12 IT Applications Teachers'
Mailing List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 04, 2010 8:21
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] ESL
students and the exam</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>hi All
<DIV>I believe they are allowed a dictionary. The exams are proof read by
specialist ESL people at VCAA prior to the sitter vetter.</DIV>
<DIV>All answers must be in English since 1991 when someone had to receive a
mark in maths because their answer was correct but in Chinese (Rhombus was
the word in 1990). </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Ring the VCAA ESL people and ask for the answer in an email.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Andrew Shortell</DIV>
<DIV>Wallan SC</DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV>On 04/10/2010, at 1:59 PM, Mann, Warrick D wrote:</DIV><BR
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All,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I
have been asking this question to, from what I have been able to find out
is that there are no provisions for ESL. All normal rules
apply.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Cheers<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Warrick<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
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lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</A><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au]<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><B>On Behalf Of<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></B>Mark
KELLY<BR><B>Sent:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Monday, 4 October 2010 12:47
PM<BR><B>To:</B><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Year 12 IT
Applications Teachers' Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] ESL
students and the exam<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
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class=MsoNormal>Interesting one. I've not seen this come up
before. <SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR><BR>All I
know for sure is that all written answers must be in English.<BR><BR>I've
not heard of exams in foreign translations (especially in IT; imagine the
problems translating the specialist vocabulary in proper
VCAA-speak.) Neither have I heard of human translators being used
during exams; the authentication problems would be monstrous.<BR><BR>I'm
sure Paula has all the answers.<O:P></O:P></P>
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<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On
4 October 2010 11:06, Hewett, W G <<A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="mailto:Hewett.W.G@edumail.vic.gov.au">Hewett.W.G@edumail.vic.gov.au</A>>
wrote:<O:P></O:P></DIV>
<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hi
all<BR><BR>For the first time, I have an ESL student who is asking what
type of assistance he can have translating the exam paper. His English is
reasonable, but not comprehensive technically. What do others prvide
within the guidelines?<BR><BR><BR>Thanks<BR><BR>Wayne
Hewett<BR><BR>ROSEBUD SECONDARY COLLEGE<BR><BR
clear=all><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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class=MsoNormal><BR>--<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>Mark Kelly<BR>Information
Systems Manager; Reporting Manager<BR>McKinnon Secondary
College<BR>McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia<BR>Direct line /
Voicemail: 8520 9085<BR>School Phone +613 8520 9000, Fax +613 9578
9253<BR><A style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au"
target=_blank>kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</A><BR>VCE IT Lecture notes:<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline" href="http://vceit.com"
target=_blank>http://vceit.com</A><BR>Moderator: IT Applications Mailing
List<BR><BR>For no reason, my friend became a square, flat surface with
four legs. I rushed him to hospital. His condition is
table.<O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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