(This would be better as a new thread, since it has no connection to previous posts in this thread...)<br><br>Anyway, whatever the penalty, just be sure not to address it individually in class. It's subsumed into the Privacy Act and the Private Sector act is not mentioned in the study design.<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 13 September 2010 10:40, Pearse, Steven S <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pearse.steven.s@edumail.vic.gov.au">pearse.steven.s@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Does anyone know the penalty for breaching this act?<br>
There is the 300,000 and 60,000 for organisations (copyright act) and<br>
health records and information privacy act 2000. I can't seem to find<br>
it.<br>
<br>
<br>
Steve<br>
<br>
Trafalgar High school<br>
<br>
<br>
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From: Mark KELLY <<a href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a>><br>
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Event management? Sounds fascinating.<br>
<br>
I guess it's more than 10 weeks of Gantt and PERT?<br>
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On 13 September 2010 08:45, Claudia Graham <<br>
<a href="mailto:claudia.graham@overnewton.vic.edu.au">claudia.graham@overnewton.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Brendyn,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> We still have IT as a core subject in year 5-8 (content a bit of<br>
everything<br>
> ? not really my specialty haven?t taught year 5 for about 5 years).<br>
Our year<br>
> 9, have a dedicated centre, with lap top (compulsory and a core it<br>
subject),<br>
> students can also elect to get a laptop earlier in year7 I think and<br>
we also<br>
> have a class worth of laptops between each middle school class (Y5-8)<br>
><br>
> Year 10 has Game Maker (mostly boys), Event Management (mostly girls)<br>
and<br>
> DIYIT (a more hands on class). We are looking at adding a robotics<br>
unit in a<br>
> couple of year. All our Year 10 subject not just IT must have ICT in<br>
them ?<br>
> as they all have laptop we must utilize them.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> We do not block until students select subjects (late July) and a<br>
decision<br>
> has been made about what subject/classes run. So the other subjects<br>
they<br>
> select generally don?t clash as we start our blocking from year 12<br>
down.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I don?t think we do anything special, others do far more creative and<br>
> cutting edge stuff then we do. We are just happy we have been able to<br>
> weather the decline in numbers.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
><br>
> Claudia<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> *********************************************************************<br>
><br>
> Claudia Graham<br>
><br>
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><br>
> Assistant to the Head of Staff (Keilor Campus)<br>
><br>
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><br>
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> *From:* <a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<br>
> <a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] *On Behalf Of *Brendyn Hancock<br>
> *Sent:* Monday, 13 September 2010 8:20 AM<br>
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> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] 2011 numbers<br>
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><br>
><br>
> Claudia<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Interesting comments. Can you give the list an overview of your ICT<br>
class<br>
> structure years 7-12? Are your y10 classes all electives?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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> <a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] *On Behalf Of *Claudia Graham<br>
> *Sent:* Sunday, 12 September 2010 1:19 PM<br>
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> *Subject:* [Year 12 IT Apps] 2011 numbers<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I always find this an interesting discussion at this time of year.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> We have since 2000 had fairly consistent numbers, so over three<br>
different<br>
> study designs we have had one full class of IPM/ITA of about 20-25,<br>
and an<br>
> SD class of 8-14. The numbers are similar next year with ITA just<br>
slipping<br>
> over the 25 mark to allow us to have two classes. (our Year 11-12<br>
cohort is<br>
> about 360) Year 11 and Year 10 have solid numbers, with year 10 having<br>
4-6<br>
> semester electives running most years.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> We have not been able to sustain any VET classes (we tend to go<br>
against the<br>
> trend in this area), we had it one 2 year cycle a couple of years<br>
back.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> And I know we often blame the study design but there are so many<br>
factors<br>
> that impact on students decisions to choose a subject. As VCE<br>
Coordinator I<br>
> would say, in general, the exact content of a course has limited<br>
influence<br>
> over selection, other than having to have a general interest in that<br>
subject<br>
> area. Peer group, prerequisites, and certainly not least the teachers<br>
they<br>
> have had as well as the teachers expected to teach the subject have<br>
ever<br>
> increasing influence. Most kids I spoke to about ITA/SD hadn?t even<br>
realised<br>
> there were any changes for next year, because they had made the<br>
selection on<br>
> what a teacher said or did and what their friend who is doing it this<br>
year<br>
> said etc. Not sure what we teach is an important as how we teach it.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
><br>
> Claudia<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> PS: my 2 cents because I had 5 minute free on a weekend while in the<br>
middle<br>
> of the last SD SAC of the year!<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> *********************************************************************<br>
><br>
> Claudia Graham<br>
><br>
> VCE Coordinator<br>
><br>
> Assistant to the Head of Staff (Keilor Campus)<br>
><br>
> Overnewton College<br>
><br>
> 9334 0049 (direct)<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> *From:* <a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<br>
> <a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] *On Behalf Of *Kent Beveridge<br>
> *Sent:* Sunday, 12 September 2010 10:38 AM<br>
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
> *Subject:* [Year 12 IT Apps] ITApps 2011?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Another slightly different perspective on this topic,....<br>
><br>
> IFF statistical analysis is to reveal anything and as stats are a lot<br>
to do<br>
> with sampling, population sizes and so on(I am not a statistician by<br>
the<br>
> way...) then howcome the 'random audits' conducted by the body<br>
overseeing<br>
> our course seems to 'randomly' pick same schools for audit<br>
regularly(me now<br>
> 4 years in a row!) and add to that then, why did I bother to organize<br>
a<br>
> partnership arrangement with other schools. Some things dont make<br>
sense and<br>
> these are but two of them to me.<br>
><br>
> Also, as far as results go, I've done quite nicely the last 2 years<br>
thanks<br>
> very much with my small cohort. BUT, seems I.T.Apps may be dead here<br>
> now..not sure but dont think anyone picked it for '11.<br>
><br>
> Got Certs 2 & 3 running instead now. Also might convert the middle<br>
school<br>
> I.T. to programming and game development using Actionscript and<br>
similar...<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> my 2.57 cents worth..<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> KB.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Kent Beveridge<br>
><br>
> ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.<br>
> ------------------------------<br>
><br>
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> *Sent:* Saturday, 11 September 2010 10:56 AM<br>
> *To:* Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] McKinnon classes 2011<br>
><br>
> Three years ago, my VCE IT classes got shouldered with the Arts block<br>
so<br>
> the my students are generally drawn from Maths-Science to Business<br>
> Studies-Arts. Most have an ESL background and my most 'accademic' IT<br>
student<br>
> has only been in Australia for a couple of years and struggles with<br>
many<br>
> basic computing ideas. I am still smouldering by the reviewer who<br>
openly<br>
> ticked me off for a decline in IT results. Explaining to a<br>
bean-counter<br>
> about small sample sizes, teaching for all and shifting cohort groups<br>
doesnt<br>
> cut much cloth when they wave their moderation wand.<br>
><br>
> Oddly enough, I have more girls in my year 12 class than boys. I put<br>
this<br>
> to the splendid Go-Girls-Gor-For IT seminar we ran for the year 10s a<br>
couple<br>
> of years ago. My guess is that if I hadn't done this, we would also be<br>
down<br>
> to just one class. The pictures speak for themselves and I believe<br>
they are<br>
> running the event again.<br>
> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/plakboek/sets/72157624373556087/" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/plakboek/sets/72157624373556087/</a><br>
><br>
> Lock and load ..<br>
><br>
> Regards Roland<br>
><br>
> PS: My biggest challenge is enthusing kids to return to school / class<br>
> following the term break for revision and sticking it out. For the<br>
past<br>
> couple of years, I sit outside the examination room to fire off a<br>
> threatening glare for anybody that even just dates to think about<br>
leaving<br>
> early (sigh) .. some later admit that the thought of a grumpy Mr G<br>
lurking<br>
> outside keeps them indoors.<br>
><br>
> PSS: Increasingly like the idea of switching to offering SD instead<br>
next<br>
> year.<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Brendyn Hancock <<br>
> <a href="mailto:BHancock@nagle.vic.edu.au">BHancock@nagle.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> M<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Many of our kids are taking classes with fancy names and little<br>
content.<br>
> Many of them are going for classes that require less of them. Many of<br>
the<br>
> VCE kids are going to VCAL/VET.<br>
><br>
> Lots are going to more social based content classes. Environmental<br>
Studies.<br>
> Social Justice studies. Art.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> My observation.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> B<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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> Do you know where they're going instead?<br>
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> On 10 September 2010 09:46, Brendyn Hancock<br>
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><br>
> Mark<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Was just about to post this same discussion. We seem to be all<br>
re-visiting<br>
> this.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Nagle has an enrolment of 950. 2011 classes have just been drafted.<br>
Unit<br>
> 1-2=8 students, Unit 3-4=1 student<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Interesting to note we can only raise 2 classes of 25 student for a<br>
term<br>
> elective of gamemaker in Y10 as well.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Trends are trending away from us..<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Cheers<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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> *Subject:* [Year 12 IT Apps] McKinnon classes 2011<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> It's really odd!<br>
><br>
> ITA, which has run continuously *forever* with good numbers has barely<br>
> scraped a class together for next year by combining year elevens and<br>
twelves<br>
> into one small ITA class.<br>
><br>
> SD, which has only run every 3 or so years (with a small cohort when<br>
it did<br>
> run), is nearly over-subscribed.<br>
><br>
> There don't seem to be any clear local causes for such a great change<br>
of<br>
> attitude (e.g. changes of teachers or big changes in middle-years IT<br>
> offerings) so I can only put it down to either something in the water,<br>
or<br>
> the changes to the study design.<br>
><br>
> To be fair, I haven't heard kids explicitly blaming the ITA study<br>
design,<br>
> and for some reason they seem dead keen on programming in our year 10<br>
Info<br>
> Systems elective. My year 11 IT classes have been dead quiet for 2<br>
weeks<br>
> with the kids busily coding in VB6. Last year I had to beat them with<br>
> chairs to finish the VB material... this year I can sit up the front<br>
folding<br>
> paper aeroplanes and clipping my toenails while they beaver away and<br>
sort<br>
> out problems within their own ranks.<br>
><br>
> Odd!<br>
><br>
> --<br>
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