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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Many of our kids are taking classes with fancy names and little
content. Many of them are going for classes that require less of them. Many of
the VCE kids are going to VCAL/VET.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Lots are going to more social based content classes. Environmental
Studies. Social Justice studies. Art.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My observation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>B<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#76923C'>Brendyn Hancock<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#76923C'>ICT Manager<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#76923C'>Nagle College<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#76923C'>PO Box 507<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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color:#76923C'>BAIRNSDALE VIC 3875<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#76923C'>p 03 5152 6122 ext954<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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color:#76923C'>f 03 5152 6220<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 10 September 2010 9:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] McKinnon classes 2011<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Do you know where they're going
instead?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On 10 September 2010 09:46, Brendyn Hancock <<a
href="mailto:BHancock@nagle.vic.edu.au">BHancock@nagle.vic.edu.au</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Was just about to post this same
discussion. We seem to be all re-visiting this.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Nagle has an enrolment of 950. 2011
classes have just been drafted. Unit 1-2=8 students, Unit 3-4=1 student</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Interesting to note we can only raise 2
classes of 25 student for a term elective of gamemaker in Y10 as well.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Trends are trending away from us..</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>B</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#76923C'>Brendyn Hancock</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#76923C'>ICT Manager</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#76923C'>Nagle College</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#76923C'>BAIRNSDALE VIC 3875</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#76923C'>p 03 5152 6122 ext954</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#76923C'>f 03 5152 6220</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au"
target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 10 September 2010 9:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List; Year 12 Software
Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 IT Apps] McKinnon classes 2011</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>It's
really odd! <br>
<br>
ITA, which has run continuously <b>forever</b> with good numbers has barely
scraped a class together for next year by combining year elevens and twelves
into one small ITA class.<br>
<br>
SD, which has only run every 3 or so years (with a small cohort when it did
run), is nearly over-subscribed.<br>
<br>
There don't seem to be any clear local causes for such a great change of
attitude (e.g. changes of teachers or big changes in middle-years IT offerings)
so I can only put it down to either something in the water, or the changes to
the study design.<br>
<br>
To be fair, I haven't heard kids explicitly blaming the ITA study design, and
for some reason they seem dead keen on programming in our year 10 Info Systems
elective. My year 11 IT classes have been dead quiet for 2 weeks with the kids
busily coding in VB6. Last year I had to beat them with chairs to finish
the VB material... this year I can sit up the front folding paper aeroplanes
and clipping my toenails while they beaver away and sort out problems within
their own ranks.<br>
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Odd!<br clear=all>
<br>
-- <br>
Mark Kelly<br>
Information Systems Manager; Reporting Manager<br>
McKinnon Secondary College<br>
McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia<br>
Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085<br>
School Phone +613 8520 9000, Fax +613 9578 9253<br>
<a href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a><br>
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-- <br>
Mark Kelly<br>
Information Systems Manager; Reporting Manager<br>
McKinnon Secondary College<br>
McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia<br>
Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085<br>
School Phone +613 8520 9000, Fax +613 9578 9253<br>
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