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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Don’t know about the “oxymoron” comment but, I
focus on services offered in the school. For example, Counseling, Canteen,
Careers Counseling, school nurse, administration etc. Students can either pick
one of these services or find a client themselves outside the school. The
professionals inside the school are delighted when asked and when they are told
the website could be placed online on the school intranet, (if it is good
enough!) they really get excited and into the process. Students also want to
see their work online.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This is how I handle this outcome!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Antoinette<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Antoinette Siarabalos<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>eLearning Coordinator<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Emmaus College<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Bill Oldham<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 6 September 2010 6:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Unit 2 Outcome 3.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:#1F497D'>Are you saying that normal and teacher combined is an
oxymoron?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Regards, Bill Odham<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:#1F497D'>(Sessional teacher at Vic uni and RMIT)</span><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 6 September 2010 8:23 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Unit 2 Outcome 3.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-GB>The spirit is
that it is a real outside person. In desperation, I have used teachers as
clients in the past, but it's still very much an insulated environment with
supportive and comfortable people being your boss. They need to learn
with <i>normal</i> people, not teachers ;-)<br>
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I tell them early in the year to start finding clients - the shock of dealing
with people in the real-world is a valuable experience.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>On 2 September 2010 19:24, Robert Koren
<<a href="mailto:robert.koren@overnewton.vic.edu.au">robert.koren@overnewton.vic.edu.au</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-AU>Folks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU>Trying to get my head around some of the new study design for IT and
I wanted to know how to interpret “client” in Unit 2 Outcome
3. Can I as a teacher simulate a client with my students issued a case
study to complete for their projects or do I have to go out and find clients
that my students report to?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU>When I read it I feel I am supposed to have a real world example and
I am going to find it hard to find projects with real world clients.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU>Your thoughts??<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-AU>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
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