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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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I don’t want to negotiate.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>But on a related note I am trying to write
a Cyber bullying creed and would really love so input from other people.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Basically it works along side the
electronic communications policy buy works like a statement of intent call
students to action if they witness it as well.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hope people can help?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Information Technology Co-ordinator</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext'> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Brett Groves<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, 30 August 2010 2:52
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Year
12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps]
social networking sites(facebook etc)..</span></font><font color=black><span
lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I wouldn't be using Facebook at all in class, to
describe the privacy issues around it as a minefield when used with your
students would be a gross understatement and your chances of survival probably
better. <br>
<br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>Really</span></i> just don't use it. If you
want a social network use a Ning, the basic one is 3 bucks a month and you have
a good deal of control over what goes on and how it goes on...a much better
solution. <br>
<br>
Like most schools we already have enough difficulties keeping up with cyber
bullying and safety as a third party let alone (heaven helps us) when directly
involved and taking responsibility for the actions of the users.<br>
<br>
The best strategy for use of Facebook in class is to take two aspirin and have
a cup of tea and a lie down....it will pass.<br>
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Cheers<br>
Brett Groves<br>
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On 30/08/10 12:49, Ben Hines wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>>From my understanding of the way VIT looks at Facebook and similar sites, it is a dangerous idea to use facebook in the classroom. Due to their understanding of the professional relationship between students and teachers.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Be Careful how you use the social media in the classroom...<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Ben Hines<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From: <a
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] On Behalf Of Kent Beveridge<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Sent: Monday, 30 August 2010 12:42 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>To: <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List</st1:PersonName><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] social networking sites(facebook etc)..<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Has anyone used these Facebook or similar sites as a 'contemporary learning too' ? <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>What sort of responses has it had?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>What type of strategies for its use were implemented (or discussed) ?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Other ideas....<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I am looking/considering this option as to 'embrace' some of the social technologies being used presently. Have had a brief chat with my principal on the matter and he asked me to do some investigation on the matter.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>So, colleagues out there, what are some of your experiences, plusses, minuses, interestings???<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Please email responses as I am compiling an electronic folder of this information for a presentation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Am also happy to look at professional reading of published papers on this matter.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks..<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>KB.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Kent Beveridge<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From: <a
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] on behalf of Paul Golub [<a
href="mailto:golupau@santamaria.vic.edu.au">golupau@santamaria.vic.edu.au</a>]<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Sent: Monday, 30 August 2010 11:22 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>To: <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List</st1:PersonName><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Unit 4 Outcome 2 IT apps<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I do the same. I give my students 1 period (75 mins). Closed book test. Good exam prep.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Paul Golub<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on"><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Santa Maria</span></font></st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><st1:Street
w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on"><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>50 Separation Street</span></font></st1:address></st1:Street><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Northcote 3070<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Ph: 9488 1674<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original message-----<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From: Ben Hines <a
href="mailto:b.hines@ccg.vic.edu.au">b.hines@ccg.vic.edu.au</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 10:41:25 +1000<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>To: "<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List</st1:PersonName>" <a
href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">itapps@edulists.com.au</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Unit 4 Outcome 2 IT apps<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I agree, and I plan to get them to do it without an open book or test, for good exam prep!<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks Guys<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From: <a
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] On Behalf Of Mark KELLY<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Sent: Monday, 30 August 2010 10:36 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>To: <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List</st1:PersonName><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Unit 4 Outcome 2 IT apps<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I give them 2 periods (95 min) but rarely do they need it all.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I never let them use cheat sheets, notes or texts; they can't use them in the exam and U4O2 is prime exam practice.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I find the only time to let them have open book tests is when the books are pretty well useless anyway.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Open-book tests are not a good practice, I reckon.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>The weaker kids spend most of their time desperately looking things up.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>The better kids don't use the books because they know the material.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>In short, if they need the books, they're not ready for the test.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>2.2 cents' and worth every bit of it. ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>On 30 August 2010 10:13, Ben Hines <<a
href="mailto:b.hines@ccg.vic.edu.au">b.hines@ccg.vic.edu.au</a><a
href="mailto:b.hines@ccg.vic.edu.au"><mailto:b.hines@ccg.vic.edu.au></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hi ICT People,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I have had a look at some sample Outcome 2 tasks, which are a case study with about 10 questions relating to data security and legal responsibility.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>How long do you give the students to complete this task? 2 periods?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Also the students are asking me if it is open book? What's the go there?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks from a first half year IT Apps teacher!<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Ben Hines<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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