Brendyn is right "There is a dongle for that" <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgo3ueETDIk">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgo3ueETDIk</a> has a longer demo video .. <div><br></div><div>Got one myself .. remember that this is not a monitor for the iPad screen but monitor #2 .. wasnt intuitive when I first plugged it in it made sense. Means that you can read any notes from any keynote slideshows that you are running. The screen blanks ask you switch between playing movies etc.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Enjoy .. hmm, the dongle should also work on an iPad touch and iPhone, must try it out one day.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards Roland</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 12 August 2010 09:49, WEIR Andrew <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrew.weir@thomascarr.vic.edu.au">andrew.weir@thomascarr.vic.edu.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Roland,</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">What solution could we use for outputting video
to a data projector from the Ipad?</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Looking at it from the point of view of
students delivering to a class.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Andrew</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">
<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Roland Gesthuizen<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 5 August 2010
11:16 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Year
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> Melvin Wilson Jr.<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps]
[OT] Are iPads 'computers'?</span></font><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Thaks Andrew and Mark. We
are one of the iPad schools and yes, they are a consumer device but having said
that .. these eBooks have a huge potential to leverage change and most of the
issues that you raise are solvable. Check this OLPC XO3 video out about the
open mode linux model due for release. Don't hang around waiting for stuff to
happen, you can get some learning traction with this stuff now using Apple
iPads.<br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILMzuS2qZfc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILMzuS2qZfc</a><br>
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First thing is to get one for yourself and school administration team. Then you
will learn first hand what how where what etc. Don't skimp on the docking
station. It is also wise to consider kicking off with a class set too. I hope
to put something together to talk about these tablet computers at the VITTA
conference .. if nobody else is already (hint??). The EdTech Crew have also
been reviewing them in their podcasts. You can always return it to the library
for loans etc when you have had your fill of tablet computing.<br>
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Like other schools, we are in the same boat .. holding over the residual funds
left from the NSSCP grant for further iPads instead of netbooks or considering
wider deployments across entire year levels. Kind of glad we purchased Macbooks
on trolleys with our first stage. I also have a good contact we are working
with called Mel Wilson who has a tonne of experience (details above) who can
answer some of your questions. I have had a few "aha!" moments myself
so feel free to call for an honest chat about where this stuff fits in. I'll
share my phone number off list. :-)<br>
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Regards Roland</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On 5 August 2010 09:54, WEIR Andrew <<a href="mailto:andrew.weir@thomascarr.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">andrew.weir@thomascarr.vic.edu.au</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Mark,</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">(See below my rant)</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">This was a statement circulated to the CEO schools. (At the end of
my bit)</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">We looked at the ipad; they are a nice media consumption device but
we were a bit concerned about getting data on and off the device IE USB
connectivity, student file space and printing.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Also word processors and presentation tools are not included in the
package so we had to add another Approx $40 to the cost of the device to
purchase those apps, I am not sure about site and volume licensing from apple
for ipad apps.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I know things like Google docs could replace the need for the apps
such as pages, but with the wireless running at all times battery life gets
shortened and the ipad does not charge from a standard charger, it actually
requires a 1 amp usb port and I believe most computers max out a 500 – 700ma.
So the availability and OHS requirements for the power need to be considered.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">There was also the issue of support and Jail Braking. There are
pro’s and cons for custom OS and other things but what then happens to the
security of the network. Should schools support devices that have been jail
broken and how can we stop students Jail braking the device especially if we
let them take the devices home.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">From a LOTE, Humanities and to some point English point of view we
did find some major benefits and have not ruled out purchasing two class sets
but as the main stream student device we are not totally convinced of version 1
of the ipad. Let’s see what apple says for second generation.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Some of the pro’s were ITunes university, Ipad books especially
Shakespeare and other novels.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Also at this point we are actually taking a step back from
technology and really look at the curriculum so that it is supported and
enhanced by whatever “device” we choose.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Anyway this is only just the opinion of a teacher getting over a
bad dose of flu. So happy to see a healthy discussion. </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Andrew</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">*****************************************************************</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold">iPad</span></font></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Many schools
have also asked if the new iPad would be approved as a ‘computer’ under the DER</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">funding.
Initially, the advice from DEEWR was that it was not eligible. However, the following
advice was</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">received by
us on 23 June:</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:italic">Many of you have sought advice about whether the new Apple iPad meets
eligibility requirements</span></font></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:italic">under the National
Secondary School Computer
Fund. I would like to advise that DEEWR</span></font></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:italic">considers that the iPad does meet the existing definitions of an
eligible computer device under</span></font></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:italic">the Fund. An iPad is a particular type of tablet computer and these
have been considered as</span></font></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:italic">eligible devices since the implementation of the Fund in 2008.</span></font></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:italic">A tablet, including the iPad, allows users to input information via
QWERTY typing, it runs word</span></font></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:italic">processing and other efficiency applications and it provides a means of
accessing information</span></font></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:italic">from the Internet. The major difference between a tablet and a
conventional laptop is that the</span></font></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:italic">keyboard is a software generated function on a screen rather than a
physical object. The iPad</span></font></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:italic">runs different applications from other laptops.</span></font></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:italic">In summary, DEEWR considers that the iPad, as a tablet, can be
purchased under the Fund but</span></font></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:italic">it is a matter for education authorities/schools to decide if the
application suite on an iPad meets</span></font></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:italic">the educational needs of their students.</span></font></i></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 5 August 2010 9:08
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">A poser just
occurred to me as I plan budgets for next year: if we buy iPads, would they
count as <i><span style="font-style:italic">computers</span></i> in the annual
school ICT inventory (and therefore count towards DEECD's planned 1:1 ratio of
year 9-12 students per computer)?<br clear="all">
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-- <br>
Mark Kelly<br>
Manager - Information Systems; Reporting Manager<br>
McKinnon Secondary College<br>
McKinnon Rd
McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia<br>
Direct line / Voicemail: 8520 9085<br>
School Phone +613 8520 9000, Fax +613 9578 9253<br>
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