Just out of interest, most western countries' copyright laws are spookily similar because they are signatories to follow the Berne convention (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and_Artistic_Works">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and_Artistic_Works</a>)<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 29 July 2010 14:55, Mark KELLY <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Region encoding was never meant to protect IP from being copied. It was just a way for studios to control movie release dates. It's wholly a marketing manoeuvre.<br><br>The source of the info was the Australian copyright site... <br>
<a href="http://www.copyright.org.au/information/cit005/cit073/wp0042/?searchterm=dvd%20regions" target="_blank">http://www.copyright.org.au/information/cit005/cit073/wp0042/?searchterm=dvd%20regions</a><div class="im"><br>
<br><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">"In many cases, </span><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">DVD</span><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">s are region-coded for playing only in particular countries or groups of countries. Teachers can nevertheless play the </span><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">DVD</span><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">s
in a multi-region player, or re-set the region coding (we understand
this can sometimes be done via the remote control) or they may have the
region-code control in the </span><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">DVD</span><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);"> player modified so it plays </span><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">DVD</span><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">s from relevant </span><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">regions</span><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">. "</span><br style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">
<br></div>and<br><br><span style="color: rgb(102, 51, 255);">"The Copyright Act does not prohibit an educational institution purchasing a </span><span style="color: rgb(102, 51, 255);">DVD</span><span style="color: rgb(102, 51, 255);"> that is region-coded for </span><span style="color: rgb(102, 51, 255);">regions</span><span style="color: rgb(102, 51, 255);"> other than Australia, provided it is not a pirate </span><span style="color: rgb(102, 51, 255);">DVD</span><span style="color: rgb(102, 51, 255);">."</span><br>
<br>and on <a href="http://www.copyright.org.au/information/cit022/cit085/wp0072" target="_blank">http://www.copyright.org.au/information/cit022/cit085/wp0072</a><br><br><span style="color: rgb(102, 51, 255);">"The provisions in the Copyright Act dealing with circumvention devices
and services don’t apply “to the extent that [a TPM] controls geographic
market segmentation”."</span><br><br>and finally<br><br><b style="color: rgb(102, 51, 255);">"Can I use software to overcome the region coding on DVDs?</b><br style="color: rgb(102, 51, 255);"><br style="color: rgb(102, 51, 255);">
<span style="color: rgb(102, 51, 255);">Yes,
provided you only bypass the region coding mechanism and not other
technological protection measures controlling access to the content. The
Copyright Act prohibits the circumvention of an "access-control
technological protection measure (ATPM)", </span><i style="color: rgb(102, 51, 255);">but a region coding device is
not an ATPM</i><span style="color: rgb(102, 51, 255);">." </span><br style="color: rgb(102, 51, 255);"><br>(my italics)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div class="h5">On 29 July 2010 13:12, ken price <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kenjprice@gmail.com" target="_blank">kenjprice@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div></div><div class="h5">Thanks Mark - what is the source of that information? <br>
<br>I'm interested because (so far as I am aware, and according to the SmartCopying webste) it remains illegal to bypass the protection on many commercial DVDs. <br>
<br>The reason given for it being illegal would seem to also apply to the region encoding. Different thing, but still a Technological Protection Measure I'd think.<br><br>from <a href="http://www.smartcopying.edu.au/scw/go/pid/529" target="_blank">http://www.smartcopying.edu.au/scw/go/pid/529</a> :<br>
<br><b>"SCHOOLS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO FORMAT SHIFT IF MAKING THE FORMAT
SHIFT COPY CIRCUMVENTS AN ACCESS CONTROL TECHNOLOGICAL PROTECTION
MEASURE</b> Most commercial DVDs are protected by an <a href="http://www.smartcopying.edu.au/scw/Jahia/lang/en/scw/go/pid/902" target="_blank">access
control technological protection measure</a> (access control TPM).
Schools are not permitted to circumvent this <a href="http://www.smartcopying.edu.au/scw/Jahia/lang/en/scw/go/pid/902" target="_blank">access
control TPM</a> to make a format shift copy (eg, by using software such
as deCSS or DVD Shrink)."<br><br><br><br>Cheers, ken <br><br>TASITE <a href="http://www.tasite.tas.edu.au" target="_blank">www.tasite.tas.edu.au</a><div><div></div><div><br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Mark KELLY <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">On a similar note, you should know that DVD region encoding has no support under copyright or any other law, and you are free to use any means to circumvent region limitations imposed by movie distributors.<br>
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