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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi George!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>No, I am not saying I won't provide Andrew with one
of my SACs. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>As I said in my my last email, I am now retired
from full time teaching and any SACs I have produced/used are related to
previous study designs and would now be inappropriate.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>These were left at the last school where I was
teaching IT for use by the incoming teacher. If I had anything current
then I would be happy to share.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Which makes me ask - what resources have been left
for you at University High by the previous IT teacher(s)?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Obviously any VITTA or other commercial SACs cannot
be distributed via the list because of copyright issues. Not sure how this
relates to government versus private schools?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>What I was saying to Andrew was not to stress out
about the SAC. He has a couple of examples that he can reshape to fit his
students and the software they are using.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>So, George, get one or two example SACs, modify to
suit your students and software and do your own thing.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Robert Hind (Semi-retired) OOF, GOM (Thanks
Kent!)<BR>Ashwood and Traralgon<BR><A
href="mailto:robert@yinnar.com">robert@yinnar.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=ciotti.george.w@edumail.vic.gov.au
href="mailto:ciotti.george.w@edumail.vic.gov.au">George Ciotti</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=itapps@edulists.com.au
href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing
List</A> ; <A title=robert@yinnar.com href="mailto:robert@yinnar.com">Robert
Hind</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 12, 2010 3:59
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] sac2</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">With all due respect, what you’re effectively saying
is that after all your experience you wont provide Andrew with one of your
SACs? Or one of the SACs that you may have gotten from someone else in the
past and successfully used in your class? <BR>I would give you one of mine if
I had one Andrew but I am in the same boat as other first year ITA teachers.
It seems to me that SACs that others have used successfully in the past or
indeed are using currently are few and far between. Not any on the VITTA
unless you’re doing the Software SAC, heaps of those!<BR><BR>The big question
is why? I would have thought that by now there would/should be plenty. How
many ITA teachers are there out there? <BR><BR>If you don’t mind Andrew, I
wouldn’t mind looking at the ones you have.<BR><BR>Thanks in
advance.<BR><BR>George Ciotti<BR><BR>--><BR>The University High
School<BR>77 Story Street, Parkville, Vic, 3052, Australia<BR>Ph: (03) 9347
2022<BR>mobile: 0412934782<BR><BR><BR><BR>On 5/12/10 11:53 AM, "Robert Hind"
<<A href="robert@yinnar.com">robert@yinnar.com</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><FONT face=Arial>Hi
Andrew!<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>We've
all been down the same road. First time teaching the subject. Not sure
exactly what the study design means! Am I doing the right thing? What help
can I get? Where can I get it?<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>That
is where the ITApps list really helps. You can ask for help and usually get
it.<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>I was
teaching IT when the VCE started. We had CATs - and now SACs. Those of us
teaching at that time had to develop our own CATs and SACs - especially in
non-metropolitan schools, where I was teaching at that time, as we had no
local support. The whole Edulists did not exist and there were no
commercially available resources. I am now retired from full time
teaching.<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT></SPAN><FONT
size=5><FONT face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt">So what am I saying to
you?<BR></SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT
face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><FONT face=Arial>Don't agonise too much about this
SAC. You have two examples already - so, unless you are not happy with
either of them, go with one of those. Modify of course to suit your students
and the software you and they are using.<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>The
SAC has to allow students to demonstrate the required skills- see the VCAA
Assessment Handbook for ITApps at <A
href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/InfoTechHB_2007.doc">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/InfoTechHB_2007.doc</A></FONT><FONT
face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <<A
href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/InfoTechHB_2007.doc">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/InfoTechHB_2007.doc</A>>
<BR> <BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>Then really all you have to do is rank
the students in order of their ability to satisfy the requirements for the
SAC. The moderation of the internal assessments via the exam marks takes
care of assessment differences between schools/teachers.<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>Good
luck with SAC 2<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>Robert
Hind (Semi-retired) OOF, GOM (Thanks Kent!)<BR>Ashwood and Traralgon<BR><A
href="robert@yinnar.com">robert@yinnar.com</A><BR></FONT><FONT
face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR> <BR> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT
face=Arial>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Townsley, Andrew A"
<<A
href="townsley.andrew.a@edumail.vic.gov.au">townsley.andrew.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</A></FONT><FONT
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href="mailto:townsley.andrew.a@edumail.vic.gov.au">mailto:townsley.andrew.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</A>>
</FONT><FONT face=Arial>><BR>To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers'
Mailing List" <<A
href="itapps@edulists.com.au">itapps@edulists.com.au</A></FONT><FONT
face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <<A
href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au</A>>
</FONT><FONT face=Arial>><BR>Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:23
AM<BR>Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] sac2<BR><BR>> Hi,<BR>> <BR>> I am
after another SAC for outcome 2. I have 2 already and really would like to
see another if possible.<BR>> <BR>> A.Townsley<BR>> <A
href="townsley.andrew.a@edumail.vic.gov.au">townsley.andrew.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</A></FONT><FONT
face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <<A
href="mailto:townsley.andrew.a@edumail.vic.gov.au">mailto:townsley.andrew.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</A>>
<BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>> Fountain Gate SC<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: <A
href="itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</A></FONT><FONT
face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <<A
href="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>>
</FONT><FONT face=Arial>on behalf of Jackson Bates<BR>> Sent: Tue
11/05/2010 11:16 AM<BR>> To: <A
href="itapps@edulists.com.au">itapps@edulists.com.au</A></FONT><FONT
face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <<A
href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au</A>>
<BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] U3O2 - Ok to
code entirely in Notepad?<BR>> <BR>> Hi,<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> This is probably a dumb question, but if a pupil is proficient in
html<BR>> and css, can they create their prototype website in Notepad (or
Vym, or<BR>> Notepad++ etc). I know the task must be completed using
appropriate<BR>> software that can create a website, but does that
include something as<BR>> simple as a text editor or must they use
Dreamweaver or another WYSIWYG<BR>> type of editor?<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> Cheers,<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Jackson
Bates<BR>> <BR>> Waverley Christian College<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
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