No Donna, you did raise a good point and thanks for raising this. I am being careful here not to pick on any one issue, broadening
it from the original hacker vs cracker debate to something more interesting .. What many call a settlement, others call an occupied territory. What many describe as pioneers, others describe as invaders. What many describe as illegal migrants, others describe as desperate refugees. What some hide as government owned, private and confidential, others may report as being in the public interest. What the media describes as a balanced debate, scientists describe as pandering airplay to crackpots.<br>
<br>Even our very real world of IT is not so black and white. Crikey, what some call a benevolent security filter, others describe as the great
firewall. <br><br>Should students be aware of this language play and be guided to identify the associated tensions. There are some powerful groups and corporations that like to think they can control our thinking and steer opinion. Humanities teachers have to juggle the spin put onto our language all
the time. Would anybody on the list like to share how they deal with this?<br><br>I have my doubts that common usage should dictate the ideas of what we should teach. That is not to say that we cannot describe what people generally think. I bump into this every year when I start to describe information and data to get students to think about these terms as as IT professionals do, not as a lay member of the public. Any valid claim for how we should use a term should probably be based on sound arguments, not popularity.<br>
<span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial;"></span><br>Regards Roland<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 2 April 2010 10:48, Donna Benjamin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:donna@cc.com.au">donna@cc.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 18:33 +1100, Mark KELLY wrote:<br>
> I fear the battle is already lost; 99% of the<br>
> population simply does not know or care about the difference: and they<br>
> win.<br>
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</div>But you are IT teachers, teaching IT students, who surely should at<br>
least be exposed to the notion there is a difference?<br>
<br>
Or should I just pull my head in?<br>
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Common Usage is not always Correct Usage.<br>
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