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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Kent and all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I sent a similar email to the
Yr.11 list – so apologies to those that have read this already. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Also – just as a side
note… I know it has taken a while to ‘officially’
reply, but 10am on a Sunday? Kent – I know you can take it as well
as dish it out – so I am going to say – turn off your email and get
outside!! <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I am trying not to be reactive
– and I do want to listen to your concerns but feel I must make a few
points.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Firstly, we are not comparing
apples with apples. The PD that you are all discussing is 5 x 2 hour
sessions + a site licence resource as well. We are not talking about a
single PD session. The PD is a package – designed to be attractive
given that the site licence ($324) is included. It is a whole course –
and the site licence is a ready to go PHP course that you can put onto your Intranet
and use out of the box. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The presenter (in this case
– Kevork), deserves to be paid for his time and effort – of this I
am sure you would all agree. VITTA needs to pay for the venue as well as
someone to organize the event itself – registration, etc. At the
end of the day – VITTA does not make much money from PD – and in
fact last financial year lost money. Under these circumstances, perhaps
VITTA should offer NO PD AT ALL – and many would argue that VITTA should
not offer PD when we are not making money. We offer PD for what we
consider to be a fair price – enough to make the event viable. In
actual fact, the monies set aside by schools for PD are out of line with
reality – and that is the issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I am certainly happy to engage
in any conversation about costs – and VITTA members who have constructive
suggestions are welcome to meet with me anytime – the coffee will be on
me! <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Adrian Janson<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>VITTA President<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:0cm'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kent Beveridge<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 7 February 2010 9:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] Learn PHP and MySQL to make useful
websites and support your students<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Hang on a mo..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Am I to understand this 'PD' is $600 for ONE DAY?(add the price of
a replacement teacher for a day too for participants)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>'scuse me while I pick myself up off the floor...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>(make sure we remember to add accomodation/meal/travel costs for
country folk!)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>YEP, I'm back on my price-horse again for 2010.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Hey Jo, can you cast your mind back to comments I made during our
last phone call and you will know what I am going on about.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Looks like I have to miss out on another potentially useful PD as
again, have been priced way out of the ball park!!!(the I.T budget up here aint
that big and nor is my wage - thats almost my take home pay for a week - can we
start running PD's at an affordable and reasonable price pleeeez??)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Lets put something in as a parallel...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>A full Cert IV qualification can be obtained for $1500 and takes
an average of 3-5 months to complete.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>YEP I know this will upset some readers on this list. Apologies in
advance for those such offended! <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>But how are teachers like myself going to get these skills
other than self teaching if we simply cant afford to these things. Perhaps
VITTA should look at the so called 'education revolution' and source funding to
reduce costs of hosting these events to make them more affordable for 'single
day PD's '.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>I am all for offering my students programming at Year 12 but if
this is the cost of training via our subject organisation then many are going
to wonder if the costs of upskilling for the job are worth it. Unfortunately,
the students 'may' be the victims of this cost explosion. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>For what its worth, I wish to introduce Software Devel here at our
school in either 2011 or 2012. I wish to provide my upcoming students every
opportunity but costs like this make it really a challenge!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>I am happy to take VITTA phone calls to discuss this issue and
possible remedies(but dont offer a time payment plan as that doesnt reduce the
cost).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Respectfully closing off..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Kent.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>
itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] on behalf of Jo
McLeay [jo@vitta.org.au]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 5 February 2010 4:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> itapps@edulists.com.au<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 IT Apps] Learn PHP and MySQL to make useful websites
and support your students</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>PHP and MySQ</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Who is this for?</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>All teachers who want to update their programming skills to make
dynamic websites <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Teachers of years 8 to 12 VCE & VET teachers, including at
Year 11 for Database Programming <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>teachers who are interested in delivering PHP and MySQL <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>teachers of VCE Software Development <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>The day is tailored to fit the beginner, intermediate or advanced
person<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:0cm'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>The benefits of PHP and MySQL
include:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>PHP is one of the approved programming languages in Software
Development <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>PHP can be used to program mobile devices <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>PHP and MySQL are free and open source<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:0cm'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>What is included?</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>A copy of Kevork’s new book "PHP and MySQL for standard
and mobile devices" <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>software installation <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>sample outcomes for teachers who are interested in delivering PHP
and MySQL <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'><span style='mso-list:
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>notes and exercises ready for participants at any proficiency
level. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><![if !supportLists]><span
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>refreshments are supplied. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:0cm'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>What should I bring?</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Bring your laptop<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Additional dates are: <b>2nd March, 9th March, 16th March and 23rd
March</b>. Sessions go from <b>4.30 to 6.30 pm</b> on each day. <b><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal> 25th Feb 2010 <span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>600 (Inc. GST) non-members
$750.00 (Inc. GST)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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T: +61 3 9495 6836<br>
F: +61 3 9495 6834<br>
M: +61 (0) 402 087 017<br>
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