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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I agree totally.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Judee Forscutt-Hobbs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bane, Janet A<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 18 August 2009 4:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Year 12 IT Apps] REVIEW OF VCE INFORMATION
TECHNOLOGY,SUMMARY OF PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE STUDY DESIGN<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Robert, with all due respect, I think you're missing the
point. Our ITA numbers are <strong><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>decreasing</span></strong>.
Whenever I start to go on about databases or spreadsheets, their eyes start to
glaze over. Students start to nod off. The occasional one has even
fallen off their chair in a deep deep slumber. They look at me pityingly
when I say "its part of the study design, and we have to do
it". Their response is its BORING! </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>S<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>o how will doing two database SACS, (worthy though they might be)
help us to <strong><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>attract</span></strong>
numbers to our study? One database SAC is enough (if it has to stay at
all). Lets offer a course that is a bit more interesting for the
kids (and one which they will hopefully enjoy and be attracted to because
its FUN).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>I think the way to go is to include a task that will
appeal more to their creative side - eg.a multimedia task (eg. using
powerpoint, photo story, movie maker, flash, kahootz, scratch etc.) where
they have to manipulate picture <strong><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>and
sound</span></strong> files (which IMHO have been sadly neglected and the kids
love playing with) to produce a product suitable for an audience. It can
still be rigorous in terms of designing, producing (& testing) and
evaluating as well as following our beloved "problem solving
methodology".</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>What
do others think???</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of
Robert<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tue 18-Aug-09 3:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] REVIEW OF VCE INFORMATION
TECHNOLOGY,SUMMARY OF PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE STUDY DESIGN</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Oh dear!<br>
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I happen to like databases. They are used considerably in the "real
world".<br>
Sure they are not the only IT app, but should we "tart" the course up
to<br>
attract the less interested students, or should we have a course that does<br>
mirror the real world of IT?<br>
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Robert Hind (Semi-retired)<br>
Ashwood and Traralgon<br>
robert@yinnar.com<br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Mark Kelly" <kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au><br>
To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List"<br>
<itapps@edulists.com.au><br>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:18 PM<br>
Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] REVIEW OF VCE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, SUMMARY OF<br>
PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE STUDY DESIGN<br>
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> <a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/vceconsult/itsumofchanges.doc">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/vceconsult/itsumofchanges.doc</a><br>
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> *TWO* ITA outcomes using databases? O! no no no...<br>
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> ITA enrolments have been bad enough recently.<br>
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> This will surely kill them stone dead.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Mark Kelly<br>
> Manager - Information Systems<br>
> McKinnon Secondary College<br>
> kel AT mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au<br>
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> Why do people mis-spell 'grammar' and mispronounce 'pronuniciation'?<br>
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