<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">I have been using the program for 10 years now, and I agree upgrades are often mainly decoration rather than added functionality, it is such a user friendly software, I suppose no major training required with each upgrade. A real shame that exam questions are all just so Access oriented.<BR><BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 11/8/09, Mark Kelly <I><kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Mark Kelly <kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au><BR>Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] <SPAN>FileMaker</SPAN> Pro<BR>To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List" <itapps@edulists.com.au><BR>Received: Tuesday, 11 August, 2009, 9:04 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>8, then 8.5, then 9 and currently 10 :-)<BR><BR>Filemaker 'major' upgrades are often mainly decoration rather than added <BR>functionality.<BR><BR><BR>Roland Gesthuizen wrote:<BR>> Thanks Mark .. oddly enough I once used Greg's books for teaching Access.<BR>> Say, are you FMP version 8?<BR>> <BR>> Regards Roland<BR>> <BR>> 2009/8/11 Mark Kelly <<A href="http://au.mc389.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au" ymailto="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</A>><BR>> <BR>>> Greg Bowden's PDF tutorials are a good start (gct.com.au from memory)<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Russo, Frank R wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>> Roland have been using Filemaker Pro for years absolutely love it, so easy<BR>>>> compared to access each year I obviously teach my Unit 1 & 3 students acess<BR>>>> and then give them a taste of filemaker pro there
are plenty of resources<BR>>>> out there.......<BR>>>><BR>>>> Frank Russo<BR>>>> Leading Teacher ICT ~ Teaching & Learning<BR>>>> eLearning Leader, Timetabler & RTC Supervisor<BR>>>> Teacher:- IT, Multimedia, Maths & Science.<BR>>>> Filemaker Pro Database Developer<BR>>>> School Notebook Representative<BR>>>> AEU Branch President<BR>>>> Website Administrator<BR>>>> AIC and Curriculum Committee Member<BR>>>> Acting Daily Organiser & A.P. as required<BR>>>> Monterey Secondary College, Frankston North.<BR>>>> -----Original Message-----<BR>>>> From: <A href="http://au.mc389.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" ymailto="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</A> [mailto:<BR>>>> <A
href="http://au.mc389.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" ymailto="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>] On Behalf Of Roland Gesthuizen<BR>>>> Sent: Sunday, 9 August 2009 2:42 PM<BR>>>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<BR>>>> Subject: [Year 12 IT Apps] FileMaker Pro<BR>>>><BR>>>> Well put Mark,<BR>>>><BR>>>> Say all, I am interested in learning more about FileMaker Pro<BR>>>> following my trip to the NECC with the ACEC08 study tour (again thank<BR>>>> you VITTA and Westall SC :-). I have a suspicion that others might be<BR>>>> thinking along the same line. Is anybody planning a workshop or can<BR>>>> point me towards some good online resources?<BR>>>><BR>>>> Regards Roland<BR>>>><BR>>>> 2009/8/9 Mark Kelly <<A
href="http://au.mc389.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au" ymailto="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</A>>:<BR>>>><BR>>>>> VCAA cannot prescribe software used in outcomes. If they DO decide to do<BR>>>>> so, they must publish the prescribed software as they do with Software<BR>>>>> Development's approved programming languages.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> They MUST accept any answer that is correct for ANY available software<BR>>>>> product: spreadsheet, DBMS, web editor etc.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> They MUST NOT ask questions that are specific to any one of the available<BR>>>>> varieties of software products (e.g. Access, Excel), including the<BR>>>>> esoteric<BR>>>>> terminology used by them.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> They'd better not ask another Access-specific
question this year. The<BR>>>>> very<BR>>>>> mention of "queries" or "reports" is too brand-specific. It seriously<BR>>>>> disadvantages Filemaker Pro users, for example.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> It worries me how they assume a particular family or brand of software is<BR>>>>> "standard" and merrily ask questions assuming that EVERYONE uses that<BR>>>>> family<BR>>>>> or brand.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> It's wrong and must stop.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> I feel better now.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> Kent Beveridge wrote:<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>> If I may, an observation...<BR>>>>>> Personally, I am a "majority Microsoft" product user, not by desire but<BR>>>>>> just essentially as that is what my employers (the various schools of my<BR>>>>>> teaching
time..) have had available to use for my I.T. classroom<BR>>>>>> ramblings.<BR>>>>>> Surely the VCAA can be flexible enough to allow the examiners to mark as<BR>>>>>> 'correct' the essentials of formulae presented to them by students. What<BR>>>>>> I<BR>>>>>> mean is, what if the students have NEVER used Microsoft or APPLE<BR>>>>>> products?<BR>>>>>> Surely they shouldnt be penalised when in fact their solution would work<BR>>>>>> on<BR>>>>>> their "flavor" of application software (eg open source spreadsheet or<BR>>>>>> other<BR>>>>>> market available alternative).<BR>>>>>> If we are to produce flexible and thinking students for employers then<BR>>>>>> we<BR>>>>>> must allow them to provide solutions appropriate to their
working<BR>>>>>> environments.<BR>>>>>> Case in point: Applications developers in the commercial workforce may<BR>>>>>> use<BR>>>>>> a program that is nothing like Microsoft and yet will do the same job<BR>>>>>> most<BR>>>>>> efficiently on the mainframe in the workplace. I ask you VCAA...how many<BR>>>>>> schools out there have a mainframe costing millions of bucks that runs<BR>>>>>> the<BR>>>>>> exact same formats and conventions of Microsoft on all their<BR>>>>>> applications?<BR>>>>>> Lets get real here with our exam expectations on the students and allow<BR>>>>>> them<BR>>>>>> some flexibility with their answers!<BR>>>>>> Kent.<BR>>>>>> Kent Beveridge,<BR>>>>>> St. Brigids CSC,
Horsham.<BR>>>>>> Ph (03) 5382 3545<BR>>>>>> <A href="http://www.stbc.vic.edu.au/" target=_blank>http://www.stbc.vic.edu.au/</A><BR>>>>>> <A href="http://au.mc389.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au" ymailto="mailto:kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au">kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au</A><BR>>>>>> "This email and any attachments may be confidential. You must not<BR>>>>>> disclose or use the information in this email if you are not the<BR>>>>>> intended<BR>>>>>> recipient. If you have received this email in error, please notify us<BR>>>>>> immediately and delete the email and all copies. The School does not<BR>>>>>> guarantee that this email is virus or error free. The attached files<BR>>>>>> are<BR>>>>>> provided and my only be used on the basis that the user
assumes all<BR>>>>>> responsibility for any loss, damage or consequence resulting directly or<BR>>>>>> indirectly from the use of the attached files, whether caused by the<BR>>>>>> negligence of the sender or not. The content and opinions in this email<BR>>>>>> are<BR>>>>>> not necessarily those of the School."<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> ________________________________<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> From: <A href="http://au.mc389.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au" ymailto="mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au">itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au</A> on behalf of Roland Gesthuizen<BR>>>>>> Sent: Sat 8/8/2009 2:02 PM<BR>>>>>> To: Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<BR>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Examination
reports<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Yes, it isnt so much as they came up with something different or that<BR>>>>>> they have invented a new standard. There is an open standards group<BR>>>>>> that is trying to improve the exchange of recalculated formulas in<BR>>>>>> spreadsheets and I suspect that is what they have used. Google Docs<BR>>>>>> uses this format too. Let me check. Yep .. works with double quotes.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Curious I did not directly spot this before as I jump across between<BR>>>>>> XLS, ODC and GoogleDocs. Shows how plastic our minds are to these<BR>>>>>> subtle changes. I guess when it flags an error, I just thump my<BR>>>>>> forehead to shake a neuron loose and amend the formula with either<BR>>>>>> single or
double quotes. REM hmmm<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> Regards Roland<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>> 2009/8/7 Robert <<A href="http://au.mc389.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=robert@yinnar.com" ymailto="mailto:robert@yinnar.com">robert@yinnar.com</A>>:<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> And I have just checked Open Office. Different again.<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> Requires semicolons rather than commas as separators between items, eg<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> =IF(C2>40;"yes";"no")<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> ?<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> Robert Hind (Semi-retired)<BR>>>>>>> Ashwood and Traralgon<BR>>>>>>> <A href="http://au.mc389.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=robert@yinnar.com"
ymailto="mailto:robert@yinnar.com">robert@yinnar.com</A><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert" <<A href="http://au.mc389.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=robert@yinnar.com" ymailto="mailto:robert@yinnar.com">robert@yinnar.com</A>><BR>>>>>>> To: <<A href="http://au.mc389.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=itapps@edulists.com.au" ymailto="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">itapps@edulists.com.au</A>><BR>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 3:50 PM<BR>>>>>>> Subject: Fw: [Year 12 IT Apps] Examination reports<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>> Whoops! I missed out one (double straight) quote :-)<BR>>>>>>>> Should have read:<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> And can I add to Mark's message by noting that Excel does
not like<BR>>>>>>>> "smart<BR>>>>>>>> quotes", or curly quotes but only straight quotes, ie<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> =IF(C2>40,"YES"," ")<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> Robert Hind (Semi-retired)<BR>>>>>>>> Ashwood and Traralgon<BR>>>>>>>> <A href="http://au.mc389.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=robert@yinnar.com" ymailto="mailto:robert@yinnar.com">robert@yinnar.com</A><BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert" <<A href="http://au.mc389.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=robert@yinnar.com" ymailto="mailto:robert@yinnar.com">robert@yinnar.com</A>><BR>>>>>>>> To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List"<BR>>>>>>>> <<A
href="http://au.mc389.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=itapps@edulists.com.au" ymailto="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">itapps@edulists.com.au</A>><BR>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 3:33 PM<BR>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Examination reports<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>> And can I add to Mark's message by noting that Excel does not like<BR>>>>>>>>> "smart<BR>>>>>>>>> quotes", or curly quotes but only straight quotes, ie<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>> =IF(C2>40,"YES," ")<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>> Pedantic? Yes! But Excel, and other apps, will only accept exactly<BR>>>>>>>>> what<BR>>>>>>>>> they have been programmed to
expect.<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>> Robert Hind (Semi-retired)<BR>>>>>>>>> Ashwood and Traralgon<BR>>>>>>>>> <A href="http://au.mc389.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=robert@yinnar.com" ymailto="mailto:robert@yinnar.com">robert@yinnar.com</A><BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Kelly"<BR>>>>>>>>> <<A href="http://au.mc389.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au" ymailto="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</A>><BR>>>>>>>>> To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List"<BR>>>>>>>>> <<A href="http://au.mc389.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=itapps@edulists.com.au"
ymailto="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au">itapps@edulists.com.au</A>><BR>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 1:26 PM<BR>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Examination reports<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>> Examiners' report, ITA Q12b:<BR>>>>>>>>>> Quote<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>> Few students could correctly write the formula for the IF statement<BR>>>>>>>>>> =IF(C2>40, 'YES',' ').<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>> End Quote<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>> And fewer examiners could either, apparently: double quotes rather<BR>>>>>>>>>> than<BR>>>>>>>>>>
single quotes are needed (at least in Excel, which is the undeclared<BR>>>>>>>>>> standard for all spreadsheet questions in the exam).<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>> It does bug me when a commentary on what is correct and what is not<BR>>>>>>>>>> gets<BR>>>>>>>>>> it wrong.<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>> Christophersen, Paula P wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>> Dear colleagues<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>> In case you are not aware, the examination reports for the 2008<BR>>>>>>>>>>> exams<BR>>>>>>>>>>> in<BR>>>>>>>>>>> IT apps and Software development are available at
the following<BR>>>>>>>>>>> addresses.<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>> <A href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/it-applications/exams.ht" target=_blank>http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/it-applications/exams.ht</A><BR>>>>>>>>>>> ml#H2N10037<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>> <A href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/softwaredevel/exams.html"
target=_blank>http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/softwaredevel/exams.html</A><BR>>>>>>>>>>> #H2N10037<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>> Regards<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>> Paula<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>> Paula Christophersen<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>> ICT Curriculum Manager<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>> VCAA<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>> 41 St Andrews Place<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>> EAST MELBOURNE 3002<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>
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