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color:#1F497D'>It&#8217;s often called RAD (Rapid Application Development) or
prototyping &#8211; i.e. you take an initial design to production and then
alter it as you go.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Allan Barnes, CEO</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>P.O. Box 171</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>Brunswick West 3055</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>Ph: (03) 9387 2051</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>FAX: (03) 9387 3470</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Robert<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 19 March 2009 6:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] U3-O1(MS-Access)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>As
you say - real life problems, real life people and mistakes!</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>So
why do we design first? </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Because
of course we have some idea of what we want to do and we &quot;design&quot; the
database to do that. As we work on the development of the database we find that
we have not thought things out fully, or we have made silly mistakes. So we
make changes to our original design &quot;on the fly&quot;.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Document
the changes. No problem.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Robert
Hind (Semi-retired)<br>
Ashwood and Traralgon<br>
<a href="mailto:robert@yinnar.com">robert@yinnar.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>

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Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:Russo.Frank.R@edumail.vic.gov.au"
title="Russo.Frank.R@edumail.vic.gov.au">Russo, Frank R</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au" title="itapps@edulists.com.au">Year 12 IT
Applications Teachers' Mailing List</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Thursday, March 19,
2009 5:35 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> RE: [Year 12 IT
Apps] U3-O1(MS-Access)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Wow some real life applications taking on real life problems being
solved by real life people making real life mistakes&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;hmmm
sounds to life learning here !!!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Don&#8217;t worry it happens every year here and yes a great lesson
is learnt especially why do we design first ????<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Frank<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Frank Russo</span><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>ICT ~ Teaching &amp; Learning</span><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Monterey Secondary College</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Litsa Tzelepis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 19 March 2009 12:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 IT Apps] U3-O1(MS-Access)</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hello,</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Three
of my students have just realsied they have designed their data tables with
some errors in them. They relaised this as they're entring some data.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Is
it appropriate to&nbsp;for them to annotate the corrections on their original
designs to show they've had to go back and &quot;redesign&quot; some elements?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thank-you,
and have a nice day,</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Litsa</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>---<br>
Litsa Tzelepis<br>
Mount St. Joseph Girl's College<br>
Y10 Team Leader &amp; Technology Convenor<br>
(P)8398 2000 | (F)9398 3498</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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