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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I believe if we all stuck together, united
with the union, then and only then could we have received a better deal. For
the first time, our campus stayed open as support for the strike was thin. How
can we ask for top of anything when minimal action happens? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext'> itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:itapps-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Brian Lennon<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 21 May 2008 5:48
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Year
12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Year 12 IT Apps] Pay
Deal</span></font><font color=black><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I thought that this might
be interesting to people. It's from a Sunday Age article comparing Vic and NSW
pay scales and the gaps. The link to the article online is below the table.<br>
<br>
Years teaching<br>
.....<st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Victoria</st1:place></st1:State>
..... NSW ..Gap<br>
<br>
1st $51,184 $50,522 +$662<br>
<br>
2nd $51,584 $53,121 -$1537<br>
<br>
3rd $51,584* $55,726 -$4142<br>
<br>
4th $52,643* $58,331 -$5688<br>
<br>
5th $55,686* $60,933 -$5247<br>
<br>
6th $57,273* $63,536 -$6263<br>
<br>
7th $58,906 * $66,137 -$7231<br>
<br>
8th $60,585* $68,744 -$8159<br>
<br>
9th $62,312* $75,352 -$13,040<br>
<br>
10th $64,554 $75,352 -$10798<br>
<br>
11th $66,556 $75,352 -$8796<br>
<br>
12th $68,619* $75,352 -$6733<br>
<br>
13th $75,500* $75,352 +$148<br>
<br>
The article itself can be read here <br>
<br>
<a
href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/teacher-wage-rise-slap-in-face/2008/05/17/1210765260640.html">http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/teacher-wage-rise-slap-in-face/2008/05/17/1210765260640.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>To further get some light and thoughts on all this,
I've set up a discussion board for Victorian Teachers at </span></font><a
href="https://www.edumail.vic.gov.au/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=https://www.edumail.vic.gov.au/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://victorianteachersforum.mybb3.org/"
target="_blank"><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>http://victorianteachersforum.mybb3.org/</span></font></a><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> . After
all the talk of wage parity with NSW teachers, and the lack of publicity
on the real outcomes of the agreement, I felt that people probably needed to
discuss the issues somewhat more widely than in their individual staffrooms. I
have posted the Age article from last Sunday giving the comparisons with NSW
for different year levels - one is more than $13000 less than NSW counterparts.
I just think that this needs some real debate among all teachers in Victorian
schools and the AEU has not provided such a forum. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Feel free to register there, post your
comments, and <em><i><u><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>please</span></font></u></i></em>
pass this on to other teachers in other schools who might be
interested in reading and/or joining a discussion. If someone in any particular
school emails it to DL <em><i><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>yourschool</span></font></i></em>
it should go to everyone in their own school. This email needs to be
passed on quickly to get enough coverage of Victorian teachers to form a
serious debate about what to do with this proposed 2008 agreement.<br>
<br>
Brian</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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Chris Barry wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Hi All,<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>I know this is
off-topic, but I thought you'd find it interesting. This has been passed to many
school principals - Surely it will disappoint many.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>I won't send anymore
about it, as it isn't quite related to the core business of the mailing list.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>In short:<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>The key features of the
agreement are:<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Four salary increases
effective from the first pay period on or after:<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>4.9% - 1 May 2008<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>2.71% - 1 January 2009<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>2.71% - 1 January 2010<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>2.71% - 1 January 2011<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Lump sum payment
on commencement of the agreement:<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>$2,000 – Principal
Class<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>$1,500 – Leading
Teacher range 2<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>$1,000 – Classroom
teacher</span></font><b><font size=4 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";font-weight:bold'> (with
the exception of E-2, E-1 G-2 and G-1)<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Chris<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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